[nfbmi-talk] Job Opening - Central Office Receptionist

Fri Oct 7 17:29:14 UTC 2011

hi Joe, 

This will be my last comment, here.  The only way to prove our belief is to
confront them.  The only way to confront them on hiring is to apply for jobs
and see what happens.  We can either get jobs, the real goal, or build a
track record of discrimination toward us.  Either way we win, sooner or
later.

I will continue to speak out, loudly, if necessary.  I will also continue to
take action to prove, one way or another, whether the system is working or
not.

Each of us needs to do what we think is most effective.  I have told you my
opinion and I will leave it there.  Your participation is valuable.  You
surface a lot of factual and useful information, I like that.  My only
comment was regarding style and that is a personal decision.

Warm Regards,

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:20 PM
To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Job Opening - Central Office Receptionist

Hi Fred,

I do think that qualified blind folks can and should do this job sir! I
highly respect you as you know, but I disagree in that I think that under
the current regime the "game" so-to-speak is rigged and all cannon wants
is/are lackies. Besides, the proof regarding to reasonable accommodations is
in deed in the pudding.

These clowns think tthat it is an "undue hardship or administrative burden" 
to do basic accounting?

What more need I say?

We've met the enemy and he isn't Pogo or us....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Job Opening - Central Office Receptionist

> Hi Joe,
>
> I am, obviously, in favor of clear, blunt and pointed  descriptions of 
> those
> things at MCB that need changing.  I am also outraged about the
> mismanagement and waste of the vast resources of the Commission, including
> the people, money and facilities.  Great outpourings of emotionalism on a
> continual basis without action has diminishing affect and benefit.  From 
> one
> friend to another, let's begin to develop a constructive activism which 
> puts
> some action into the rhetoric.  We will not be taken seriously if all we
> have to offer is words upon vitriolic words.
>
> It is clear by demonstration by capable totally blind people that this job
> is one that can competently be done.  I truly want blind people to apply 
> for
> this job.  I'm afraid this thread may discourage people from applying.  If
> blind people are, indeed, discriminated against, then, we can take action.
> If no blind people apply, then, those who hate blind people and do not
> believe in us have won and we have reduced  opportunity to change things.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Joe harcz Comcast
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:23 AM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Job Opening - Central Office Receptionist
>
> Yup. Again it might just be deamed an administrative hardship or an undue
> financial burden for the Michigan commission for the Blind to actually 
> hire
> a qualified blind person for this position.
>
> I am outraged as most might guess that the very agency that requires all
> sorts of bells and whistles and basic accountability for some blind folks
> cannot apply these same principles including basic accounting, let alone
> basic accountability for itself.
>
> The outrage continues in the writings of the agency itself. Nothing has to
> be proven. This is a renegade operation run by scofflaws and runs contrary
> to every principle of law, every notion of fair play, and totally contrary
> to its fundamental and taxpayer funded mission.
>
> I'm growing of the opinion and am not kidding here that we would be better
> off in shutting the whole thing down, and taking the federal revenue as a
> dole for all blind Michiganders. If these clowns and malfeasant
> administrators and class disscriminators keep this up then we would not be
> worse off than to simply cut out the "middle man" and give each and every
> blind person here a check.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Job Opening - Central Office Receptionist
>
>
>> Hey Joe,
>>
>> Trick question, eh?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:45 PM
>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Job Opening - Central Office Receptionist
>>
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> Are blind folks eligable for this job?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry Posont" <president.nfb.mi at gmail.com>
>> To: <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:39 PM
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Job Opening - Central Office Receptionist
>>
>>
>>> Dear Fellow Federationists:
>>> This is a part-time job that is available in Lansing.
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Larry Posont
>>> President, National Federation of the Blind of Michigan
>>>
>>> From: Robertson, Bob (LARA)
>>> Subject: Job Opening - Central Office Receptionist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Michigan Commission for the Blind (MCB) has posted a vacancy for a
>>> General Office Assistant 5-7. This position is the front desk
>>> receptionist in the MCB Central Office in Lansing. More information
>>> about the position and the application process can be found on the MI
>>> Dept of Civil Service website:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://agency.governmentjobs.com/michigan/default.cfm?action=viewJob&jobID=3
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The deadline for applying is at the close of business on Friday, October
>>> 7.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have any questions about this position, contact Sue Luzenski at
>>> 517-335-4265.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Robertson
>>>
>>> Michigan Commission for the Blind
>>>
>>> 517-373-8829
>>>
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