[nfbmi-talk] mac book

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Wed Sep 21 23:15:35 UTC 2011


Those are good reasons and personally while I will go Apple in the next 
carnation I'm forced for financial reasons to ride out this xp machine with 
Jaws 6.2 until it dies.

That said when that happens I'm not going to pay for the Jaws upgrades and a 
new pc when I can get a nice Macbook with all the bells and whistels for the 
same price of the PC with the Jaws upgrade.

I'm still waiting for the I-phone V to come out and then I'll upgrade my 
Verizon plan with the I-phone IV at a reduced price.

This said and even though I'm not currently using Apple products daily for 
economic reasons I greatly appreciate their universal design approach, 
innovations, and the reductions in applications over all.

They have been rightfully applauded for these and other things by NFB, ACB 
and everyone. Rightfully so IMO.

And when I have it I'll surely put my money where my mouth is too!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mac book


> Two reasons -- the main one is that I can't afford one at this time, or in 
> the foreseeable future, and secondly, I have to do a lot of things on the 
> web, like mailing list maintenance for this and our other 200 lists, and I 
> am not sure Safari is as efficient on the web, with commands as JAWS and 
> IE are to me now.  They may be, but my little experience wasn't 
> reassuring.
>
> Dave
>
> At 11:15 AM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>>Hi Dave,
>>
>>Would you be willing to explain why you will not be switching over to the 
>>Mac at this point in time?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Elizabeth--------------------------------------------------
>>
>>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:55 AM
>>To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mac book
>>
>>>I am not the best to ask, I have used a Mac for a couple days, and had 
>>>some training, but haven't switched over, and am not going to do so, for 
>>>now.  There is a learning curve, some things seem easier, some more 
>>>complicated, but mostly different.  Lots of commands to memorize, but if 
>>>you taught yourself JAWS you can handle it.  On any Mac type command-F5 
>>>and it will start talking, command is immediately to either side of the 
>>>spacebar.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>At 10:37 AM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>>>>is it easy to learn? when i learned jaws the first time, it didn't
>>>>take me long to figure it out, and to learn the key commands. I ask
>>>>this because I'm tired of shelling out money i don't have just to
>>>>upgrade a software that isn't that great to begin with.  I can't
>>>>imagine it being hard to learn. I'm hoping to go to the apple store
>>>>soon, and have them show me how to use it so that when i do purchase
>>>>one, i will know what i'm doing. i love the iphone, and how smooth the
>>>>voiceover is on it. it was a lot easier than i thought it would be
>>>>touse.
>>>>
>>>>On 9/21/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>> > VoiceOver is quite usable, but it is quite different from JAWS.  The
>>>> > key commands are not the same and some of the underlying concepts
>>>> > with the Mac and  VoiceOver are different.  Pre-conceptions from
>>>> > Windows and JAWS seem to be a big part of what a Windows user has to
>>>> > get past when learning the Apple.
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave
>>>> >
>>>> > At 09:50 AM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>>>> >>Hello all,
>>>> >>Does any one here own a mac book? if  so, I'm thinking about getting
>>>> >>one in the near future, and i was wondering how similar the voiceover
>>>> >>program is like jaws,  meaning, are the key commands the same? I
>>>> >>haven't had the chance to actually check it out at the apple store, 
>>>> >>so
>>>> >>i thought to ask before i go, and play with it. If anyone owns it,
>>>> >>please email me, so that I'm not flooding everyone's mail box on 
>>>> >>here.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>thanks,
>>>> >>Annother
>>>> >>thanks,
>>>> >>Ann
>
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