[nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter

Mon Sep 26 02:27:42 UTC 2011

Right on Fred!!  We need more folks that think like you do!  You and others 
know where we're coming from and where we want to go!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter


> Hello,
>
> I am a little reluctant to get into this thread.   joe,, though I disagree
> with Faith regarding her comments, I feel it is just what our enemies 
> want,
> that is, to fight with each other and sew emnity among us when we need to
> focus on the real issues of lack of direction and leadership from top MCB
> management.  It appears that Faith is falling into this same trap.  When
> clients are called back, have their cases opened in a timely manner, don't
> show up in Kalamazoo at the Center without having ever met a MCB client,
> blind people are not fired and bullied and intimidated for their desire to
> make things better  and we have 250-300 placements on a regular basis, 
> then
> we will know that things are improving at MCB.  No matter what anyone says
> about our motives, these are facts and cannot be denied.  It cannot be
> denied who is the top manager and who is in a position to change these
> dismal facts.  We need not beat up on one another or compare who is more
> trampled on when, in fact, when 1 blind person is trampled on, all of us 
> are
> trampled on, even those who feel privileged and somehow above the fray.
> Faith has a record to stand on and we all do to.  None of us need feel
> superior or better because some of us have been blessed with opportunity
> while others have been held back.  Except for the Grace of God, there go 
> I.
>
> warmest Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:37 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>
> Meadows isn't living poor. Her salary and credentials are a part of the
> public record as again is her nominal code of ethics.
>
> Listen one and all I've been easy on Faith as I've been on many others. 
> But
> this is corructed bullshit in a word.
>
> This garbage is again beyond her code of ethics ethicllly speaking and her
> own given premise in the field.
>
> Oh, yes when people make sixty thousand per year plus at the public teet
> then they must be held accountable to their own proprofessionaland other
> standards for sure.
>
> I used to feel a bit sorry for the likes of Faith Meadows. I don't at all
> nowadays for she is a traitor and a direct hypocrite as to her words and
> actions as if she would ever have a job in the private sector?
>
> I ddidn't wish for this to devolve into a blind upon blind campaign, but
> dangnit it has and I didn't shoot the first shot across the bow.
>
> This professional, so-called counselior who makes more than sixty thousand
> per year at the public teet has the unmitigated temerity to slander an
> entire clas for its so-called lack of responsability whilst she and the
> entire agency in documented fashion has sucked not only at our very blood,
> but also violated the very laws that give this crank her paycheck?
>
> Listen, one and all she slanderrred and attacked me personally in her
> innuendo and conjecture while again she suck up federal/state taxpayer
> dollars. Now, I'll remin all I'm not a hypocrite. I am decidedly left of
> center. Yet for all of my own career, with the exception of three years in
> the mid-seventies wilst working for the Genesesse count ISD as a para-aide
> at below union wages until I founded a union in fact I've always worked 
> for
> the private sector.
>
> How ironic is that eh?
>
> I will no longer work for sellouts, incompetents and discriminatory 
> actors.
>
> I just won't.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>
>
>> Christy, What I'm mostly responding to is that this person whom I know
>> well, can attack us and think we are just complaining to do so.  I got
>> involved with the NFB because I'm job hunting and am not getting 
>> anywhere!
>
>> This isn't the first time that MS. Meadows has let loose like this.  She
>> certainly has a right to her oppinion but sence she works in the rehab
>> field she should be supporting us in our efforts.  Beeing a person who
>> would LOVE!!!  to have a job and is doing everything possible to obtain
>> that goal. Well, I guess I am getting tired of being stereotyped as
>> someone who would rather live of the government than contribute to it!
>> MS. Meadows also claims or was a member of our organization as well.
>> Finally, she has become one of those folks who are doing alright and at
>> least seem to have most of what we want.  This is a good thin unless you
>> do what she has done and judge those of us who are trying and getting
>> nowhere!  I, like Mr. Harcz, do believe that They are doing the best they
>> can down in Kalamazoo but some folks are not doing the jobs they have 
>> well
>
>> and in fact are not giving deserving blind folks as good a service as 
>> they
>
>> can.  Most of the counsellors are well intentioned.  But training of
>> counsellors and clients does need to improve!  I'm very happy that you
>> don't really need the services but some folks do and that's what we need
>> to improve!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <christywitte at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 5:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>>
>>
>>>    I can definitely see why some people are frustrated and even angry.
>>> However, last time I checked, our job is not to judge others our spout
>>> off. If people could use that energy they feel to accomplish a goal, 
>>> like
>
>>> getting a job it would be great. I'm not responding specifically to
>>> anyone on the list. I know that sometimes there are misconceptions about
>>> the commission and what it does and what it does not do. Try to turn 
>>> your
>
>>> tragedies to triumphs. Also, blindness is just one adjective to describe
>>> us; beyond that, we come from all walks of life and so we have many
>>> experiences and abilities.  Sometimes, we have to take things in our own
>>> hands. If we do not believe in our own abilities, how do we expect 
>>> others
>
>>> to believe in our abilities. We all must forge ahead to achieve success;
>>> means something to everybody. Some of us are very young or very old, may
>>> have other disabilities, difficult lives, varying levels of skills. We
>>> are all given a different lot in life but we need to work within our own
>>> parameters to get things done. The commission can be lacking, this is
>>> true, but blaming an organization, which is composed of many people,
>>> doesn't get us a paycheck or whatever we feel we want and need
>>> individually and as a group. We must forge together and stand together 
>>> to
>
>>> win our battles. By the way, I've never gotten assistance from anybody. 
>>> I
>
>>> think about what I would do in their shoes; I also consider how much I
>>> would want to help or assist someone who has attacked me. I am not 
>>> trying
>
>>> to offend others nor am I condoning people who don't get the job done.
>>> I've also observed that many people in my generation may not fully
>>> comprehend their own role in finding employment or understand what the
>>> job is going to involve. You have ask yourself: do I have the skills
>>> necessary for this job and if I want this job, or one similar to it, how
>>> am I going to personally acquire the skills that are lacking. Many blind
>>> people in my age group are unemployed, and many of those aren't hitting
>>> the pavement every day looking for enjoyable employment. I'm not sure
>>> about the reasons. They may feel overwhelmed by the process; they may
>>> feel like they are not equipped with the tools necessary to perform this
>>> job. It is kind of like climbing a mountain. You have to locate and 
>>> climb
>
>>> to the higher level.
>>> Sorry about the length.
>>> Christy
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:09 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also, I'm concerned about her and others who think our commission board
>>>> is to aggressive!  Does this mean it didn't do much before?  I thaught
>>>> our board was supposed to actually do something!  Just being the blind
>>>> man in the street, and correct me if I'm wrong at least 2 of the
>>>> commissioners had very good jobs.  I don't really know Lydia but if she
>>>> doesn't have one she would deffinetly have experience enough for the
>>>> board.  Both of the commissioners who quit had good jobs but decided to
>>>> quit anyway because they were out numbered and in my humble oppinion
>>>> didn't really have enough interest in making things better for the 
>>>> blind
>
>>>> population as a whole.  It seems to me that when some blind folks get
>>>> lucky and get good jobs they forget that most of us are still 
>>>> struggling
>
>>>> for the security and respect they think they have earned!  I am not
>>>> slamming everyone that has gotten jobs iether but people like Faith and
>>>> Donna Rose must feel secure in ther jobs so they find us especially the
>>>> NFB tiresome because we still have to scratch and claw for every single
>>>> rite we gett!  If joblessness and respect were not issues then we
>>>> wouldn't have to be aggressive about themm!  But we should always 
>>>> insist
>
>>>> on fair play!  At least the current board wants to do things right and
>>>> abov board!
>>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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