[nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Tue Apr 17 21:58:27 UTC 2012


Have fun.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Sievert" <matt.sievert at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan " <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request


Group,

It has been interesting, but  I am unsubscribing from this list.

I wish you all the best in your endeavors.

Keep in mind there is a legally blind citizen of michigan doing well earning 
a livable wage and willing to advise any other visually impaired person who 
seeks advice.

It is not an easy road, but it can be traversed with decent results.

Matt Sievert




-----Original Message-----
From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:05:22
To: Joe Sontag<suncat0 at gmail.com>; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing 
List<nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Reply-To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request

The offical document sir is thematter at issue here and, by the way are all
the sup and nuts and such that went in tothe original EO.

We are not children of a lessor god here! We are supposed to be citizens
endowed at a very minimum of the fundamental right to at least know of
governmental activity at the first instance. Anything less is an
abomonitation to the democratic process.

I know you Mr. sontag thinks around the sad lines that divides the right and
left.

Man, we can't  even play a football game without regulated rules yet this
government here thinks it can make it up as it goes along when it comes to
those who are blind.

What a freaking crokc against fundamental democracy that is.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Sontag" <suncat0 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>;
"Patrick Cannon MCB Dir." <cannonp at MICHIGAN.GOV>
Cc: "Robin Jones" <guiness at uic.edu>; "Carla Haynes" <haynesc at michigan.gov>;
"lydia Schuck MCB Comm." <laschuck at juno.com>; "MARK CODY" <MCODY at mpas.org>;
"Joe Sibley MCBVI Pres." <joe.sibley at comcast.net>; "Farmer,Mel (DELEG)"
<farmerm at michigan.gov>; "Richard Bernstein Esq"
<rbernstein at sambernstein.com>; "James Chaney EOC"
<resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net>; "Richard Clay Advocates f/t Blind"
<savingoursonsrc at yahoo.com>; "Hazell Brooks" <jiggyzee at att.net>; "John Scott
MCB Comm." <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>; <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Elmer Cerano
MPAS" <ECERANO at mpas.org>; "Sally Conway USDOJ" <sally.conway at usdoj.gov>;
"OCR Cleveland Office" <Ocr.cleveland at ed.gov>; "Geri Taeckens"
<geri.taeckens at isahealthfund.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request


And to think that all I was saying was that the "recall" thing as applied to
e-mail sent outside of a particular system is not solikely to succeed.  Love
to see what was in it.  I'll do my judging when that happens or when the
official document leaks out.

Joe S
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
To: "Patrick Cannon MCB Dir." <cannonp at MICHIGAN.GOV>
Cc: "Geri Taeckens" <geri.taeckens at isahealthfund.org>; "Carla Haynes"
<haynesc at michigan.gov>; "lydia Schuck MCB Comm." <laschuck at juno.com>; "MARK
CODY" <MCODY at mpas.org>; "Sally Conway USDOJ" <sally.conway at usdoj.gov>;
"Farmer,Mel (DELEG)" <farmerm at michigan.gov>; "Richard Bernstein Esq"
<rbernstein at sambernstein.com>; "James Chaney EOC"
<resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net>; "OCR Cleveland Office"
<Ocr.cleveland at ed.gov>; "Hazell Brooks" <jiggyzee at att.net>;
<nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Robin Jones" <guiness at uic.edu>; "Elmer Cerano
MPAS" <ECERANO at mpas.org>; "Joe Sibley MCBVI Pres." <joe.sibley at comcast.net>;
"Richard Clay Advocates f/t Blind" <savingoursonsrc at yahoo.com>; "John Scott
MCB Comm." <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:16
Subject: [nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request


April 17 2012 FOIA



Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.

Mt. Morris, MI 48458

810-516-5262

E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net



Re: FOIA/ADA/504 Request for Timely Information



To:



Carla Haynes, Michigan Commission for the Blind FOIA

Cc: Melvin Farmer, LARA FOIA

Cc: Patrick D. Cannon

Michigan Commission for the Blind Director



(Via E-mail)



Dear All,



I’m requesting under the Michigan Freedom of Information Act the mass E-mail
attachment referenced in the following public domain submission to several
public officials posted by Mr. Posont to the NFB of Michigan list serve as
follows:



“----- Original Message -----

From: "Cannon, Patrick (LARA)" <

cannonp at michigan.gov>



To: "MCB Staff" <

MCBStaff at michigan.gov>



Cc: "Zimmer, Mike (LARA)" <

zimmerm at michigan.gov>

; "'John Scott'" <

jcscot at sbcglobal.net>

; "'Larry Posont'"

<

president.nfb.mi at gmail.com>

; "'Lydia Schuck'" <

laschuck at juno.com>

; "Posont, Larry (LARA)" <

PosontL at michigan.gov>

; "Schuck, Lydia

(LARA)" <

SchuckL1 at michigan.gov>

; "Scott, John (LARA)" <

ScottJ11 at michigan.gov>



Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:34 AM

Subject: Recall: Governor Snyder to Issue New Executive Order Next Week



Cannon, Patrick (LARA) would like to recall the message, "Governor Snyder to
Issue New Executive Order Next Week". =



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Precisely what is the “message” Mr. Cannon wished and apparently re-called
somehow?



This was a most public correspondence about most public actions and we the
public have the right to know including we who are blind in a timely manner
and effective format. Since this was sent out on Cannon’s own state owned
computer it is subject to FOIA and since it was digital in the first
instance (my most effective format) I am requesting this now. Not yesterday
and not with stalling, and not with an abuse of the ADA’s or 504’s “undue
hardship” provisions for there are clearly no hardships of this
multi-million, federally funded agency at play here folks!



In addition as it is clear that there will be and are changes to the
Executive Order 2012—2 involved here I wish to know precisely what the
contents of the new Executive Order will be so that I, a citizen of this
state and this Republic can decide for himself if they are in accordance
with applicable state and federal laws..



Oh if you want to stall around this issue then think of the damages re:
Detroit Free Press v. City of Detroit amongst others.



In other words as an editorial comment I am sick to death personally of all
the government secrecy going on in this state and it doesn’t go just to this
issue, but regardless is germane to it nonetheless.



In this case we have substantial violations of the Americans with
Disabilities Act of 1990, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 as amended, the
Michigan Open Meetings Act, the Michigan Freedom of Information Act and
Public Act 260 going on like they are violations on steroids.



This must end. It must end now.



I am willing, able and will sue if need be for it all to end too!



So give this information up!



It is time for secret government in Michigan and secrecy relative to
federally funded programs for the blind and others with other disabilities
to end as well.





It is as simple as that!

Sincerely,



Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.



Cc: Michigan Protection and Advocacy Services, Inc.

Cc: NFB MI

Cc: MCBVI

Cc:several media outlets

Cc: several MRC members

Cc: RSA

Cc: several list serves and blogs

Cc: Governor Richard Snyder

Cc: several Attorneys at Law

Cc: United States Department of Justice, Civil rights Division

Cc: United States Department of education, Office of Civil rights





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