[nfbmi-talk] Washington Seminar

Thu Dec 27 19:30:08 UTC 2012

Elizabeth,
That's a fair point and one we should discuss next time this comes up.

From: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Washington Seminar

> Hello J.J and List,,
>
> I am not suggesting we change anything for this year. I believe the motion 
> that was made during state convention should be honored as it was voted on 
> by the convention.
>
> However, I disagree with you that having the state affiliate paying for 
> the room is the fairest way to go. When the room is full, this option 
> seems to work well, but when it is not full, then there always seems to be 
> a problem. I heard my sister encountered a problem with this last year, 
> and I encountered a problem with it the year before. And now there seems 
> to be a problem with the specific days of the room for this year.
>
> I was just proposing an option that might work best for all even when 
> there is not a full room. I am honestly tired of seeing the same problem 
> come up year after year. I think it discourages people from going when 
> arrangements are made at the last minute and are out of the control of the 
> individuals who are going.
>
> I have heard of other states allocating money to individuals rather than 
> rooms, so I thought perhaps maybe we could think about doing this in the 
> future as a means of preventing all the problems that seem to keep coming 
> up year after year. However, if anyone else has a better way of avoiding 
> these problems in the future, I would be more than happy to hear them.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jason Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:14 PM
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Washington Seminar
>
>> That's a possibility for the future, but this wouldn't be very fair to 
>> Terri at this point. She would be penalized because she is the only 
>> female who has chosen to go and required to find 3 roommates to make 
>> things work out.
>> I guess the option at this point would be to vote to nullify the motion 
>> that the members passed at convention, though this sets a dangerous 
>> precedent. We could also post on the various lists to see if there is 
>> another state who has an extra room or a person needing one, which could 
>> help us cut the cost of the second room down.
>> Personally, I feel that the affiliate paying for the room or a portion 
>> thereof is the fairest way to do things and also easiest for the national 
>> office.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Washington Seminar
>>
>>
>>> Hello Dave and List,
>>>
>>> I agree with what J.J. said in his last message. Although, it seems as 
>>> though we have had some kind of issue regarding the room arrangements 
>>> for the past three years. This is why I have suggested allocating a set 
>>> amount of money to be given individually in the future.
>>>
>>> Since this year's motion was to provide two rooms for three nights, we 
>>> could calculate how much it would cost each person to stay in a room 
>>> with four people for three nights. We could then provide each individual 
>>> with this amount of money so they could make their own room 
>>> arrangements. If they found a room with three additional people for 
>>> three nights, there would be no additional cost for them to stay in the 
>>> room. However, if they wanted their own room, a room with only one or 
>>> two additional people, or wanted to stay more nights, then it would be 
>>> up to the individual to pay for the remaining cost of the room.
>>>
>>> I am not suggesting we implement such a change this year because I know 
>>> that people have most likely already made their plans based on the 
>>> motion that was made at state convention, but perhaps it might be worth 
>>> trying next year. Again, it seems to me that we have had some kind of 
>>> problem regarding the room arrangements for the past three years, and I 
>>> am simply proposing and alternative solution that might prevent this 
>>> from becoming an issue in the future.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jason Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:50 AM
>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Washington Seminar
>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>> That may make sense in the future, but the motion was made and people 
>>>> have likely already made travel plans based on it.
>>>> I would say though that the legislative info meeting on Monday is at 
>>>> least one worth attending.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Jason Meddaugh
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>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "David Robinson" <drob1946 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Washington Seminar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> J. J.
>>>>>
>>>>>   The intent of the motion was to sponsor a room for men and one for 
>>>>> women
>>>>> for the Washington Seminar.  How we get it done and on what days seems 
>>>>> to be
>>>>> an issue, but I am sure that will be resolved based on when we can get
>>>>> appointments.  My request was based on the fact that if some were 
>>>>> going
>>>>> early to attend seminars of any kind, that it would be helpful to be 
>>>>> sure to
>>>>> have one of our representatives cover the Merchants meeting.  My 
>>>>> current
>>>>> responsibilities prevent me from attending, but I have walked those 
>>>>> halls
>>>>> many times and will do so in the future.  Perhaps, if we can get all 
>>>>> of our
>>>>> appointments in on two days then it might be prudent of us to only 
>>>>> sponsore
>>>>> two nights at the hotel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Robinson
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> Meddaugh
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:38 PM
>>>>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Washington Seminar
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave,
>>>>> As for your comment on the merchants committee, perhaps you should 
>>>>> attend
>>>>> Washington Seminar so you could attend the merchants committee 
>>>>> meeting?
>>>>> The reason we haven't traditionally paid for a room on Wednesday night 
>>>>> is
>>>>> that our appointments are completed by the afternoon on Wednesday. 
>>>>> Michigan
>>>>> had 17 (now 16) appointments to attend, and by splitting up into two 
>>>>> or more
>>>>>
>>>>> groups, we are able to do these in a day and a half.
>>>>> If there were any discussion, it would be whether to pay for 2 nights 
>>>>> or
>>>>> three. But I do believe the motion at state convention was for three 
>>>>> nights,
>>>>>
>>>>> and Sunday through Tuesday would make the most sense given our 
>>>>> affiliate and
>>>>>
>>>>> how we usually tackle the appointments and other events at Washington
>>>>> Seminar.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Elizabeth" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB Michigan" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Washington Seminar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Dave,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your response. I can understand your concerns. However,
>>>>>> since the minutes from state convention have yet to be released, it 
>>>>>> can be
>>>>>
>>>>>> difficult to recall the specific language that was used in the 
>>>>>> motion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the motion from state convention specified that the state 
>>>>>> affiliate
>>>>>>
>
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