[nfbmi-talk] all in violation

[J.J. Meddaugh]

Agreed. I would not consider an image-based PDF accessible. Looking forward 
to these links.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation


> It is not the web sites at issue and it is not pdf per se, but rather 
> image based pdf files!
>
> By the way I send converted ones often to this list when relevent because 
> many including our state president doesn't have the technology training 
> and a t to access and convert even accessible pdf files.
>
> Giving a person an image based pdf is no different than a state agency 
> giving a person a printed page and then telling him/her to get a reader or 
> to purchase costly ocr vconversion tools.
>
> By the way some of us simply cannot afford all the latest and greatest.
>
> And government documents must be made accessible to all at the first 
> instance wand with no muss and no fuss.
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation
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>
>> Yes. But you are often asserting that websites are inaccessible  without 
>> using the proper tools. You seem to have a vendetta against PDF files for 
>> some reason. Believe me, I'm no fan of the format, but it is a means to 
>> present accessible information when used correctly.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> J.J. Meddaugh
>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation
>>
>>
>>> Actually I click on them and then used my adobe accessability check and 
>>> told me it was an image and "appeared to contain no text"...
>>>
>>> I did not check out each and every document but november and october 
>>> were enough...
>>>
>>> Moreover, it happenns all the time on various sites.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is that these documents are required to be accessible right 
>>> out of the box and not just the web sites.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Matt McCubbin" <mgoalball at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>> Can you provide some examples? I clicked on several of the links on 
>>>> that page, and they were accessible with my screen-reading software.
>>>> One would infer from your post that each and every document on 
>>>> Michigan's state budget website is inaccessible. However, this simply 
>>>> isn't the case.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Matt
>>>> On 1/31/2012 7:59 PM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
>>>>> Here's a massive issue facing the blind in Michigan each and every 
>>>>> document on the State Budget office web site is an image based pdf 
>>>>> file right here at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://apps.michigan.gov/MiTransparency/Category
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