[nfbmi-talk] all in violation

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Wed Feb 1 09:14:04 CST 2012


Thanks Matt. And as such this is a violation of Title II of the ADA and 
section 504. For those go to accessability of documents and not the web site 
per se.

Peace,

Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt McCubbin" <mgoalball at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation


> Joe,
> Thank you for sending this. You're absolutely correct, the documents on 
> the page you referred to are image-based PDF's, which are completely 
> inaccessible using screen-reading software.
> The page is located at
> http://www.michigan.gov/budget/0,1607,7-157-13406_13431---RSS,00.html
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 2/1/2012 9:33 AM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Did you get the full page with the State Budget Office and the monthly 
>> financial reports?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt McCubbin" <mgoalball at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation
>>
>>
>>> Joe,
>>> I'm not seeing anything referring to November or October on the page you 
>>> sent to the list. You sent
>>> http://apps.michigan.gov/MiTransparency/Category
>>> Which category did you click on?
>>> If we want to make positive change for the state of Michigan's budget 
>>> website, we need to be specific. Which specific files, including links, 
>>> aren't accessible?
>>> I'm not trying to argue with you, every document on the state of 
>>> Michigan's website should be accessible using screen-reading software. 
>>> However myself, and I'm sure others on this list, would like examples of 
>>> which documents are inaccessible.
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Matt
>>> On 1/31/2012 9:12 PM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
>>>> Actually I click on them and then used my adobe accessability check and 
>>>> told me it was an image and "appeared to contain no text"...
>>>>
>>>> I did not check out each and every document but november and october 
>>>> were enough...
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, it happenns all the time on various sites.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line is that these documents are required to be accessible right 
>>>> out of the box and not just the web sites.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt McCubbin" 
>>>> <mgoalball at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>> Can you provide some examples? I clicked on several of the links on 
>>>>> that page, and they were accessible with my screen-reading software.
>>>>> One would infer from your post that each and every document on 
>>>>> Michigan's state budget website is inaccessible. However, this simply 
>>>>> isn't the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> On 1/31/2012 7:59 PM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
>>>>>> Here's a massive issue facing the blind in Michigan each and every 
>>>>>> document on the State Budget office web site is an image based pdf 
>>>>>> file right here at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://apps.michigan.gov/MiTransparency/Category
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