[nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission

[J.J. Meddaugh]

How can you get off saying something like this?
Actually, he presents some of the most sane views on the issue that I've 
seen on this list. You can spend all of your time fighting this decision and 
putting the current MCB back into its place, or you can work toward a 
solution that makes much more sense than either the MCB or the current DHS 
involvement. It's your and our choice.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission


> Right on, Fred!!  Obviously Mark doesn't know or apparently care about 
> what we're trying to do!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission
>
>
>> Hello Mark,
>>
>> I do not know who you are.  You sure sound smug and a little gloating.  I
>> guess we ought to expect this from people who do not understand the 
>> nature
>> of why there is an agency for the blind.  It is not simply a conduit to
>> spread federal money to self-interested bureaucrats for their 
>> agrandizement
>> and empire building.  This money is to empower people who have little or 
>> no
>> power.  It is exactly this lack of power that allows the faint
>> acknowledgement of people's goals for first-class citizenship to be so
>> casually disposed of.  This is 1 more insult and insult to blind people 
>> in a
>> landscape of centuries of similar insults.  We have dignity and we will 
>> not
>> accept this as our fate.  We have fought this fight before and we will 
>> fight
>> it again.  We may suffer other setbacks, but we will not ever give up on
>> recognition of our right to first-class citizenship.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Mark Smith
>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:14 AM
>> To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission
>>
>> Hello Larry,
>> Both groups advocated this move by proxy.  If no one provides a
>> positive critically thought out solution, you are part of the problem.  I
>> have more than 500 messages from this list from the past few months that
>> absolutely unequivocally call for the destruction of MCB in its current
>> incarnation.  I do not see one positive critically thought out solution. 
>> I
>> see only the rare call by Christine boone providing a bit of well thought
>> out clarification or if necessary admonishment of a member in a gentle 
>> and
>> kind way.
>> Coming from the business world this move that the Governor is taking
>> appears to be a  solid one.  He is taking what appears publically to be 
>> two
>> agencies that are not functioning in an efficient manor, moving them to 
>> the
>> most logical place where they will leverage the assets of one another 
>> along
>> with enhancing their own already established organizations.  In addition 
>> the
>> removal of a program that has smelled of nepotism and insider trading  is
>> being placed where it makes the most logical sense, the department who
>> handles the states ways and means.
>> Only a short sighted person would or could say that the MCB board is
>> NOT the most dysfunctional group that has ever existed.  One only has to 
>> sit
>> in a meeting for about two minutes to realize that it is run by amateurs 
>> and
>> attended by a group of circus clowns.  The lack of human dignity and 
>> respect
>> alone calls for its destruction.  The most eloquent and efficient way to 
>> do
>> this is to dismantle the entire organization.  Take what is working, give 
>> it
>> to a different management team,, then eliminate the parts that are
>> disfunctioning , establish a new legally appointed board to satisfy the 
>> law,
>> and move on.
>> So you got your wish, the change that you have been calling for is
>> here.  The bureaucrats in this state are currently hunkering under their
>> desks right now just wondering where the next hammer blow is going to 
>> come
>> from.  The word on the street is that no one has seen this many laws fly
>> through the legislature this fast  in a very long time.  Go lawyer up and
>> bring up a case.  Before it gets anywhere , you will see the law change.
>> The most interesting evidence for the promotion of that change  will be 
>> your
>> own words and arguments that you have been lodging against MCB for oh 
>> about
>> the last ten years or so.
>> The only question left is; is this going to be good for the blind
>> and persons with visual impairment community in our state?  This is a 
>> very
>> treacherous and mine field ridden question.  On one hand if it is 
>> business
>> as usual I think that it is going to be very bad for our community.  I 
>> feel
>> that the credibility is in the toilet bowl and the voice is horse, people
>> are sick of hearing the bitching and griping without any real answers 
>> that
>> call for bringing the community together.  On the other hand it could be
>> something that rises like a phoenix from the fires of destruction welding
>> our community together in a positive way.  Power is in solidarity not in
>> division.  Stop the juvenile antics and come to the table like 
>> professionals
>> with critically thought out questions and possible reasonable solutions,
>> ready to negotiate and give and take a little.  Sound a lot like what our
>> federal government should do as well. Lol Mark
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:01 AM
>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission
>>
>> It is my oppinion that none of us from iether organization of blind
>> comsumers advocates this shocking move by our estemed Governor.  I didn't
>> nor will ever vote for him.  That aside, to my knowledge, NFB never
>> advocated the abolishment of the Commission.  We constantly called for
>> reform in order to serv its clients, blind folks the way it waas meant 
>> to.
>> I am stunned that this is happening!  I am not really sorry about its
>> director being out of a job but otherwise, I think this is appalling! 
>> How
>> can us blind folks fight for ourselves when our services will be devided
>> across the board?  If our Board of Commissioners is abolished, how can we
>> continue having a real say in how our tazx dollars get spent on 
>> blindness?
>> I also know many folks in the Commission who are decent folks and truely
>> want to better our lot.  Having dealt with DHS in a semiproffessional and
>> personal capacity, I truely don't have a clue how they plan to have 
>> access
>> to the services they are supposed to be providing.  And what of BEP?  For
>> all its faults, it has provided many blind folks iether with a means to 
>> make
>> a living or as a start to move up and really be able to contribute to the
>> tax pool.  Again, I want to make it clear that in my perception, us in 
>> NFB
>> never!! called for decentralization!!  I believe we will always fight
>> against coruption and abuse of the system whereever it occurs!  Dhis
>> decentralization is disastrous for all of us!
>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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