[nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Sat Feb 25 20:40:38 CST 2012


Huh? I don't get this JJ...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission


> Wow, and I'm a member of this group?
> That reply was about as unprofessional as anything I've seen on this list.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Robinson" <drob1946 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission
>
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>> Dear Mr. Smith,
>>
>>   You can have your own opinion on this issue, but I as one who is deeply
>> involved in these issues and strongly advocate for the blind of this 
>> State
>> resent your implication that I an others are clowns.  You sir have no
>> standing to judge anyone's motivation.  We will do what we need to do. 
>> You
>> can help or just sit back with your smug attitude and laugh at how funny 
>> we
>> are as clowns.  I however, know as a blind person living in Michigan, I
>> could never count on you for anything, so you will just come along on our
>> backs as we define the direction for the years ahead. u
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave-----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Mark Smith
>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:14 AM
>> To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission
>>
>> Hello Larry,
>> Both groups advocated this move by proxy.  If no one provides a
>> positive critically thought out solution, you are part of the problem.  I
>> have more than 500 messages from this list from the past few months that
>> absolutely unequivocally call for the destruction of MCB in its current
>> incarnation.  I do not see one positive critically thought out solution. 
>> I
>> see only the rare call by Christine boone providing a bit of well thought
>> out clarification or if necessary admonishment of a member in a gentle 
>> and
>> kind way.
>> Coming from the business world this move that the Governor is
>> taking appears to be a  solid one.  He is taking what appears publically 
>> to
>> be two agencies that are not functioning in an efficient manor, moving 
>> them
>> to the most logical place where they will leverage the assets of one 
>> another
>> along with enhancing their own already established organizations.  In
>> addition the removal of a program that has smelled of nepotism and 
>> insider
>> trading  is being placed where it makes the most logical sense, the
>> department who handles the states ways and means.
>> Only a short sighted person would or could say that the MCB board is
>> NOT the most dysfunctional group that has ever existed.  One only has to 
>> sit
>> in a meeting for about two minutes to realize that it is run by amateurs 
>> and
>> attended by a group of circus clowns.  The lack of human dignity and 
>> respect
>> alone calls for its destruction.  The most eloquent and efficient way to 
>> do
>> this is to dismantle the entire organization.  Take what is working, give 
>> it
>> to a different management team,, then eliminate the parts that are
>> disfunctioning , establish a new legally appointed board to satisfy the 
>> law,
>> and move on.
>> So you got your wish, the change that you have been calling for is
>> here.  The bureaucrats in this state are currently hunkering under their
>> desks right now just wondering where the next hammer blow is going to 
>> come
>> from.  The word on the street is that no one has seen this many laws fly
>> through the legislature this fast  in a very long time.  Go lawyer up and
>> bring up a case.  Before it gets anywhere , you will see the law change.
>> The most interesting evidence for the promotion of that change  will be 
>> your
>> own words and arguments that you have been lodging against MCB for oh 
>> about
>> the last ten years or so.
>> The only question left is; is this going to be good for the blind
>> and persons with visual impairment community in our state?  This is a 
>> very
>> treacherous and mine field ridden question.  On one hand if it is 
>> business
>> as usual I think that it is going to be very bad for our community.  I 
>> feel
>> that the credibility is in the toilet bowl and the voice is horse, people
>> are sick of hearing the bitching and griping without any real answers 
>> that
>> call for bringing the community together.  On the other hand it could be
>> something that rises like a phoenix from the fires of destruction welding
>> our community together in a positive way.  Power is in solidarity not in
>> division.  Stop the juvenile antics and come to the table like 
>> professionals
>> with critically thought out questions and possible reasonable solutions,
>> ready to negotiate and give and take a little.  Sound a lot like what our
>> federal government should do as well. Lol
>> Mark
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:01 AM
>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Decentralization of the Commission
>>
>> It is my oppinion that none of us from iether organization of blind
>> comsumers advocates this shocking move by our estemed Governor.  I didn't
>> nor will ever vote for him.  That aside, to my knowledge, NFB never
>> advocated the abolishment of the Commission.  We constantly called for
>> reform in order to serv its clients, blind folks the way it waas meant 
>> to.
>> I am stunned that this is happening!  I am not really sorry about its
>> director being out of a job but otherwise, I think this is appalling! 
>> How
>> can us blind folks fight for ourselves when our services will be devided
>> across the board?  If our Board of Commissioners is abolished, how can we
>> continue having a real say in how our tazx dollars get spent on 
>> blindness?
>> I also know many folks in the Commission who are decent folks and truely
>> want to better our lot.  Having dealt with DHS in a semiproffessional and
>> personal capacity, I truely don't have a clue how they plan to have 
>> access
>> to the services they are supposed to be providing.  And what of BEP?  For
>> all its faults, it has provided many blind folks iether with a means to 
>> make
>> a living or as a start to move up and really be able to contribute to the
>> tax pool.  Again, I want to make it clear that in my perception, us in 
>> NFB
>> never!! called for decentralization!!  I believe we will always fight
>> against coruption and abuse of the system whereever it occurs!  Dhis
>> decentralization is disastrous for all of us!
>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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