[nfbmi-talk] Fw: blinded vets and mcb tc question

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
To: "Patrick Cannon MCB Dir." <cannonp at MICHIGAN.GOV>
Cc: "lydia Schuck MCB Comm." <laschuck at juno.com>; "Steve Arwood LARA Dep" 
<arwoods at michigan.gov>; "Michael Harris" <mharris at michiganpva.org>; 
<nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Elmer Cerano MPAS" <ECERANO at mpas.org>; "John Scott 
MCB Comm." <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: blinded vets and mcb tc question


I still am awaiting a basic answer to a basic question here.

Mr. Cannon do you not know how to use the reply function of an e-mail? Do 
you not know how to answer basic questions?

Do you not know the ADA/504 ramifications of this inquiry and the 
retaliation ramifications of it?

Do you not know the fundamental principles of acaccountability and 
transparency?

Sincerely,

Joe Harcz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: joe harcz Comcast
To: Patrick Cannon MCB
Cc: Jo Anne Pilarski ; Luzenski, Sue (DLEG) ; 
mcb2020-L at LISTSERV.MICHIGAN.GOV
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: blinded vets and mcb tc question


March 18, 2010



Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

1375 E. Mt. Morris Rd.

Mt. Morris, MI  48458



Re: Veterans MCB, MCB TC Board Correspondence



Michigan Commission for the Blind

LANSING, CENTRAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE

Phone, voice: (517) 373-2062

Toll-free voice (800) 292-4200

TTY (517) 373-4025; toll-free TTY (888) 864-1212

Fax: (517) 335-5140

DIRECTOR'S OFFICE

Cannon, Patrick D., Director

(Via e-mail)





Ms. Jo Ann Pilarski, MCB Commission Chair

pilarskij at charter.net



Mr. Michael Geno, MCB Commission Vice Chair

luzenskis at michigan.gov



Ms. Velma P. Allen, MCB Commissioner

luzenskis at michigan.gov

Ms. Geraldine G. Taeckens, MCB Commissioner

geri.taeckens at isahealthfund.org



Ms. Margaret Wolfe, MCB Commissioner

margwolfe at usa.net



Dear All:



I noted with interest the following from the:



DELEG March 2009 MCB Report at:



http://www.michigan.gov/dleg/0,1607,7-154-28077_28313_34884-210802--,00.html







“Veterans Training



The Consumer Services staff participated in the Veteran Administration 
Vocational Rehabilitation Employment (VAVRE) training in January that 
explained the

agreement between agencies to improve relationships with the VAVRE for the 
purposes of expanding services to disabled service connected veterans.  MCB

provides services to veterans; and, this agreement focuses on expanded ways 
to collaborate with the veterans to assist in areas such as job placement,

transportation and child care during their rehabilitation.  Staff are in 
contact with veteran counselors to implement the process.”







Now, this leads to an interesting series of comments and questions. One, I 
know that MCB gives services to veterans who are blind at the MCB Training 
Center in Kalamazoo. Two, at that training center there was a “Marksmanship 
class” using a pellet gun, with assists, curriculum, etc. DELEG/MCB closed 
that class citing in public comments it violates state firearms policy (but 
apparently that only applies to people who are blind given my research for 
such programs on various state properties).



But, my fundamental question is this: “What sort of message are we sending 
to the brave men and women who served in our nation’s service; who used 
firearms extensively in that service; who are now blinded and receiving 
services at the Training Center and who because of this discriminatory 
policy are effectively told, ‘because you are now legally blind you cannot 
engage in safe use of a marksmanship course” at MCB TC?



Is this changing what it means to be blind? Is this changing the perceptions 
of blindness? Oh my would we next lobby that the State of Michigan seize 
legally owned weapons of veterans because they have become blinded?



Sincerely,



Paul “Joe” Harcz, Jr.



Cc; several

Cc: MP

VA
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