[nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Fri Aug 30 03:21:09 UTC 2013


I know the right to recieve this information is explicit in actually Title I 
of the Rehab Act.


That's why I didn't invoke FOIA in the first place, but see a latter post to 
Mr. Ed on that issue.

Best,

Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christine Boone" <christineboone2 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response


> Joe, have you contacted your local Legal Aid Society? This response could 
> actually constitute a significant degree of Harassment against you, 
> particularly when taken in conjunction with the numerous, repeated denials 
> and unreasonable costs that the BS for BP has given you in response to 
> your own, quite lawful and reasonable FOIA requests.  In fact, the 
> majority of agencies across the country would release the state plan to 
> you without the need for a formal request, and yes before it is approved 
> by RSA.  Generally there are public forums held as the State Plan is being 
> developed, and people who are blind or who are interested in services for 
> persons who are blind, are actually invited to these forums and encouraged 
> to give public comment. RSA asks that such public comment be included with 
> state plan submissions and, shockinly enough the other 49 states generally 
> comply with these requirements, as do the United States territories that 
> participate in the Federal Vocational Rehabilitation program!  These are 
> indeed dark times here in Michigan.
>
>
>
> Boone Christine Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:35 PM, "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: joe harcz Comcast
>> To: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: FOIA Response
>>
>>
>> This was an ADA/504 request and this response is simply in a word: Nuts.
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
>>  To: joe harcz Comcast (joeharcz at comcast.net)
>>  Cc: Rodgers, Edward (LARA) ; Luzenski, Sue (LARA) ; Pemble, Mike (LARA) 
>> ; Belknap, Katie (LARA) ; Duell, Elsie (LARA) ; Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
>>  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:17 PM
>>  Subject: FOIA Response
>>
>>
>>  August 29, 2013 (Sent via Email and US Mail, Prepaid on this date)
>>
>>
>>
>>  Mr. Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>
>>  E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net
>>
>>  1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
>>
>>  Mt. Morris, MI 48458
>>
>>
>>
>>  Re:  FOIA Response to Request for Information
>>
>>
>>
>>  Dear Mr. Harcz, Jr.:
>>
>>
>>
>>  This email is in response to your August 9, 2013, email request for 
>> copies of public records, received on August 10, 2013, in this office 
>> which the Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (BSBP) is processing under 
>> the state's Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), MCL 15.231 et seq.  On 
>> August 16, 2013, an extension was taken until August 30, 2013.
>>
>>
>>
>>  You have requested information as described in your email as:
>>
>>  "-The recent state plan submission made to RSA
>>
>>  -All of the transcripts of the "commission" meetings to date"
>>
>>
>>
>>  Your request is granted in part and denied in part.
>>
>>
>>
>>  In regards to your request for "the recent state plan submission made to 
>> RSA", this request is denied under FOIA, MCL 15.243, Section 13 (m).  The 
>> submissions to RSA have not been approved and are preliminary to the 
>> final RSA approval.  By releasing this information prior to approval, 
>> frank communication between RSA, LARA and the Bureau of Services for 
>> Blind Persons would be discouraged between the parties.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Response - P.J. Harcz, Jr.
>>
>>  August 29, 2013
>>
>>  Page 2 of 3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  In regards to your request for "all transcripts of the "commission" 
>> meetings to date", your request is granted as to the approved 
>> transcripts.  The documents responsive to your request are two 
>> transcripts from meetings of January 17, 2013, and March 28, 2013. 
>> Section 4(1) of the FOIA, MCL
>>
>>  15.234(1), provides that a public body may charge a fee for public 
>> record search, including the mailing costs, the cost of duplication or 
>> publication including labor, the cost of search, examination, review, and 
>> the deletion and separation of exempt from nonexempt information.  In 
>> order to complete the processing of your request, and based on the hourly 
>> wages and benefits of the lowest paid Department employee capable of 
>> performing the necessary tasks to process your request, we are requesting 
>> a deposit of $30.79 in order to begin the processing of this request.  An 
>> invoice is attached that outlines the costs.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Once payment is received for the deposit, we will process your request, 
>> and request payment for the total amount of the actual cost of the 
>> request.  When we receive this payment, we will send the transcripts to 
>> you on a USB flash drive, via the U.S. Mail.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Under MCL 15.240 of the FOIA you may (1) submit a written appeal 
>> regarding the denial of any portion of your FOIA request to Mr. Steve 
>> Arwood, Director, Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory 
>> Affairs: Attention, Mike Zimmer, Chief Deputy Director, Ottawa Building, 
>> 4th Floor, P.O. Box 30004, Lansing, MI 48909. Your appeal notice must 
>> include the word "appeal" and state the reason(s) for reversal of the 
>> denial(s); or (2) you may seek judicial review in circuit court within 
>> 180 days of the Department's final determination. If you prevail in such 
>> action, the court shall award reasonable attorney fees, costs, and 
>> disbursements. If the court finds the Department's actions to be 
>> arbitrary and capricious, the court, in addition to any actual or 
>> compensatory damages, award punitive damages in the amount of $500.00.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Response - P.J. Harcz, Jr.
>>
>>  August 28, 2013
>>
>>  Page 3 of 3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>>  Carla Miller Haynes, FOIA Coordinator
>>
>>  Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
>>
>>
>>
>>  Attachments:  Two
>>
>>  1.      Invoice
>>
>>  2.      Request for Information
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  cc:     Edward F. Rodgers II
>>
>>            Sue Luzenski
>>
>>            Mike Pemble
>>
>>  Katie Belknap
>>
>>            Elsie Duell
>>
>>            Lucy Edmonds
>>
>>            Constance Zanger
>>
>>            James Hull
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>>  BUREAU OF SERVICES FOR BLIND PERSONS
>>
>>  FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT INVOICE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  NAME AND ADDRESS OF REQUESTER:
>>
>>  Mr. Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>
>>  E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net
>>
>>  1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
>>
>>  Mt. Morris, MI 48458
>>
>>
>>
>>  REQUEST RECEIVED:  August 10, 2013
>>
>>  TYPE OF REQUEST:  Email
>>
>>  REQUEST PARTIALLY DENIED:  Yes
>>
>>  EXEMPT INFORMATION WITHHELD/REDACTED:  To be determined
>>
>>  EXTENDED RESPONSE NOTICE ISSUED:  Yes
>>
>>  REQUESTED INFORMATION WILL BE:  Emailed/Invoiced For Payment
>>
>>  ACCOUNT CODE:  Index:   36200        PCA: 11343
>>
>>
>>
>>  DLARA CONTACT:  Melvin Farmer, Central FOIA Coordinator
>>
>>  (517) 373-0194, Ottawa Building, 4th Floor, 611 W. Ottawa, Lansing, MI 
>> 48909
>>
>>
>>
>>  The FOIA provides that the department may charge a fee to comply with 
>> requests for public records.  The processing fee is composed of hourly 
>> wages and benefit costs of the lowest paid employee(s) capable of 
>> processing the request; the duplication of records at assessed costs per 
>> page; mailing costs; and other related special costs.  Prior to searching 
>> and copying requested records, the department may request full payment or 
>> 50% of the estimated costs exceeding $50.00 with the balance required 
>> before mailing the records.  Assessed costs are related to your request 
>> for:
>>
>>
>>
>>  "-The recent state plan submission made to RSA
>>
>>  -All of the transcripts of the "commission" meetings to date"
>>
>>
>>
>>  INVOICE CALCULATIONS
>>
>>
>>
>>  LABOR
>>
>>            Locating and Duplicating Cost:
>>
>>  Number of Hours: .5 hrs. x Hourly Rate: $31.06 = Amount:      $15.53
>>
>>            Examining and Extracting Cost:
>>
>>                     Number of Hours:  1 hrs. x Hourly Rate: $31.06 = 
>> Amount:                          $31.06
>>
>>  TOTAL LABOR:           $46.58
>>
>>  POSTAGE (estimate):          $5.00
>>
>>  DUPLICATING:  Number of Pages (0) times Copying Rate of $0
>>
>>  OTHER (overtime, audio tapes, discs, photos, security, etc.):  $10.00 
>> (USB Flash Drive)
>>
>>
>>
>>  SUBTOTAL:
>>
>>  Less waived indigency fee under FOIA Act MCL 15.234 Section 4(1)
>>
>>
>>
>>  INVOICE TOTAL:        $61.59
>>
>>
>>
>>  DEPOSIT* $30.79
>>
>>
>>
>>  BALANCE TO BE PAID*:     $30.80
>>
>>
>>
>>  Make check or money order payable to:         STATE OF MICHIGAN
>>
>>  Remit to:              Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs
>>
>>  Office Services Mailroom
>>
>>  7150 Harris Drive, PO Box 30015
>>
>>  Lansing, MI  48909
>>
>>
>>
>>  RETURN ORIGINAL COPY OF THIS INVOICE WITH YOUR PAYMENT
>>
>>
>>
>>  *Please note that if a deposit is requested, the indicated amount is an 
>> estimate of the cost of complying with your request.  The actual cost may 
>> vary somewhat from this amount.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>  From: joe harcz Comcast [mailto:joeharcz at comcast.net]
>>
>>  Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:03 PM
>>
>>  To: Rodgers, Edward (LARA)
>>
>>  Cc: Marlene Malloy MRC Dir; Craig McManus RSA; nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org; 
>> MARK MCWILLIAMS
>>
>>  Subject: requestfor information ada etc
>>
>>
>>
>>  August 9 2013 Request BSBP
>>
>>
>>
>>  Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>
>>  1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
>>
>>  Mt. Morris, MI  48458
>>
>>  joeharcz at comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>>  To: Ed Rodgers
>>
>>  Director Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
>>
>>
>>
>>  (Via E-mail)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Dear Mr. Rodgers,
>>
>>
>>
>>  As an advocate who is blind I am requesting the following accessible 
>> information from you:
>>
>>
>>
>>  -The recent state plan submission made to RSA
>>
>>  -All of the transcripts of the "commissions" meetings to date
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  I make these requests in accordance with known obligations under both 
>> Title I, and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as well as 
>> those requiring effective communications (without surcharge) pursuant to 
>> Title II, of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (subpart e, 
>> communications).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  To wit: I request the documents are sent to me as either Word 
>> attachments, or plain text enclosures to my e-mail address listed above 
>> for  I use screen reading technology.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I thank you in advance for your prompt and accessible response.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>>  Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Cc: file
>>
>>  Cc: NFB MI
>>
>>  Cc: MPAS
>>
>>  Cc: MCRC
>>
>>  Cc: several
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Carla Miller Haynes
>>
>>  LARA Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (BSBP)
>>
>>  201 N. Washington Square, 2nd Floor
>>
>>  P.O. Box 30652
>>
>>  Lansing, MI  48909
>>
>>  Telephone:  517-373-2063 or Toll-Free 1-800-292-4200
>>
>>  Fax:  517-335-5140
>>
>>
>>
>>  www.michigan.gov/bsbp
>>
>>
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