[nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March 28, 2013
joe harcz Comcast
joeharcz at comcast.net
Tue Mar 26 12:09:48 UTC 2013
When no wheat is sown in spring there is nothing to harvest in autumn.
And when the fields have been torched outright, and the soil salted to boot,
as a final insult nothing will grow anyway even if seeds are put upon the
land.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim in Detroit" <james.prather at comcast.net>
To: <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>; "'Joe Sontag'" <suncat0 at gmail.com>; "'NFB of
Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March
28,2013
> That is called gleaning what our forefathers left behind for the future;
> others will glean from us.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Eagle
> Sent: March 26, 2013 00:19
> To: 'Joe Sontag' ; 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March
> 28,2013
>
> I likely can most appreciate the frustration with the lack of commitment
> and
> services, the corruption and misappropriation and misuse of rehabilitation
> funds by the former Commission and the BS4BP administrations, however, as
> I
> learned as a Federationist tot in the 1960's, the Federation will be here
> longer than any bureaucrats career, any governor, and any political
> policy-maker in the legislature. My parents did not directly benefit from
> that which they as Federationist worked to achieve from the 1940's into
> the
> 1970's, and my generation of Federationists shall not directly reap that
> which we have fought to achieve into the early 21st century, and so on as
> it
> will be with my childrens' and grandchildrens; efforts and achievements as
> third and fourth generation Federationists, however, each generation of
> Federationists and non-Federationist have richly benefited from the
> preceeding Federation generation, and so on shall that contribution shall
> continue well into the future. I say all of that to demonstrate the point
> that time is and will always remain on our side, and our commitment and
> cause shall never waiver or fade away to improve the lives, opportunities,
> and independence of we the blind of this great state and nation. Giving
> up
> just simply is not in the DNA of Federationists. We know from where we
> have
> been and come thus far, and our term has no end date, unlike the
> bureaucrats, politicians, and even the corrupt and evil foe who mean harm
> to
> us as Federationists and our organization. I as a Federationist know that
> which I can contribute as my part is vital and collective from generation
> to
> generation, and I and we all owe it to our past generations and future
> generations in appreciation and gratitude for that which we have become
> beneficiaries in the cause of opportunity and independence, and a richer
> and
> happier life because defeat and quitting were are are not in our DNA.
>
> True as it may be, those in power may provide our cause what appears as a
> setback, however, because our values, plans, commitment, progress and
> outcomes are long-term in nature, we the organized blind are not governed
> by
> political polls, campaigns and votes, political and personal agendas,
> posturing, lies, and corruption. we have the added benefit that we truly
> believe in our cause, that good shall overcome evil, and the bureaucrats,
> administrations, and politicians shal go and come and go again and again,
> their fragile short-term DNA dying off, while the integrity of our DNA
> shall
> become immune to their infectious attacks and corruption, and we the
> organized blind of the Federation shall stand tall, strengthened, and
> turning any seemingly setback into just another opportunity to bring about
> greater advancement in the opportunities and independence for all blind
> persons. There is no other organization of the blind speaking for the
> blind
> that possesses the DNA that we the Federation carry within us, and neither
> is there an organization of the blind that can nor will stand proudly for
> the values and action required to achieve that which we desire and cherish
> for which we strive and work toward daily; opportunity and self-indepence
> for all blind persons.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe
> Sontag
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:53 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March
> 28,2013
>
> Joe, I appreciate your frustration and I don't have a clockwork plan for
> straightening things up, but giving up is not an option for me. I'd be
> careful about insulting the entire "Commission" before we really know how
> they think and what they stand for. Like them or not, they'll be here for
> a
>
> while and we owe it to ourselves to work with them as best we can.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 17:52
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March
> 28,2013
>
>
>> What, precisely do you think we should do now, Larry?
>>
>> Not, to be a spoil sport or whatever, but what is left to salvage of this
>> miserable mess of a thing that is not only an insult to those who are
>> blind, but, also an insult to democracy and the democratic process by a
>> bunch of self-righteous and self-serving hacktoids who (I can't believe
>> I'm saying this) are even worse than Pat Cannon. This is I guess like
>> saying they're worse than Beelzebub, or visa versa, but you get my point.
>>
>> Time for real change and it ain't happening here until people get with
>> reality.
>>
>> Fred Shroeder and Fred Wertzel were dead on wrong on this one. Can't say
>> it any clearer than that!
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Posont" <president.nfb.mi at gmail.com>
>> To: "nfbmi List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:06 PM
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March 28,
>> 2013
>>
>>
>>> Dear Michigan Federationists:
>>>
>>> The Agenda for the Advisory Meeting is out. I have included it
>>> below my message. We need to get as many people to the Meeting as
>>> possible. It is on Thursday, in the Victor Building, from 10:00 to
>>> 12:30. Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Larry Posont
>>>
>>>> From: Luzenski, Sue (LARA)
>>> Subject: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March 28, 2013
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Commission for Blind Persons (Commission)
>>>>
>>>> Thursday, March 28, 2013
>>>>
>>>> Victor Bldg, 3rd Floor, Conference room A/B,
>>>>
>>>> 201 N. Washington Square
>>>>
>>>> Lansing, MI
>>>>
>>>> 10:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meeting Agenda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Live audio streaming of the meeting will be available online at the
>>>> Bureau
>>>> of Services for Blind Persons (Bureau) web site at
>>>> www.michigan.gov/bsbp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To listen to the Commission meeting over the telephone
>>>>
>>>> Dial: 1-877-873-8017
>>>>
>>>> Passcode: 7502991#
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Participants:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Commission: Lylas G. Mogk, Chair
>>>>
>>>> LeeAnn Buckingham Michael J.
>>>> Hudson
>>>>
>>>> Marianne Dunn Josie
>>>> Barnes-Parker
>>>>
>>>> Gary Gaynor Joseph
>>>> E.
>>>> Sibley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (Bureau):
>>>>
>>>> Edward F. Rodgers II, Director
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I. Call to Order, Welcome
>>>>
>>>> Mission Statement L. Mogk 10:00-10:05
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> II. Introductions All
>>>> 10:05-10:15
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> III. Approval of transcript of Jan 17, 2013
>>>>
>>>> L. Mogk 10:15-10:20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IV. Consumer Services Subcommittee
>>>>
>>>> J. Barnes-Parker 10:20-10:50
>>>>
>>>> G. Gaynor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> V. Training Center Subcommittee
>>>>
>>>> M. Dunn 10:50-11:20
>>>>
>>>> M. Hudson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VI. BEP Subcommittee: L. Buckingham
>>>> 11:20-11:40
>>>>
>>>> J. Sibley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VII HR 4256: Implications for BEP
>>>> 11:40-11:50
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> E. Rodgers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VIII Director's Vision: Changes Envisioned for BSBP
>>>>
>>>> E. Rodgers 11:50-12:05
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IX Next Steps L. Mogk
>>>> 12:05-12:10
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> X Public Comment
>>>> 12:10-12:25
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> XI Adjournment L. Mogk
>>>> 12:25
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Please note new public comment email address)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *NOTE: Public comment may be submitted in written form until 5:00 p.m.
>>>> April
>>>> 1, 2013 via email to bsbppubliccomments at gmail.com included in whole as
>>>> an
>>>> addendum to the meeting minutes. Emails received outside of this time
>>>> frame
>>>> are not considered part of Public Comment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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