[nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March 28, 2013

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Tue Mar 26 12:11:51 UTC 2013


Good, guess we can wait until Snyder is gone and then re-build from the 
broken bones of things.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
To: "'Joe Sontag'" <suncat0 at gmail.com>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing 
List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March 
28,2013


>I likely can most appreciate the frustration with the lack of commitment 
>and
> services, the corruption and misappropriation and misuse of rehabilitation
> funds by the former Commission and the BS4BP administrations, however, as 
> I
> learned as a Federationist tot in the 1960's, the Federation will be here
> longer than any bureaucrats career, any governor, and any political
> policy-maker in the legislature.  My parents did not directly benefit from
> that which they as Federationist worked to achieve from the 1940's into 
> the
> 1970's, and my generation of Federationists shall not directly reap that
> which we have fought to achieve into the early 21st century, and so on as 
> it
> will be with my childrens' and grandchildrens; efforts and achievements as
> third and fourth generation Federationists, however, each generation of
> Federationists and non-Federationist have richly  benefited from the
> preceeding Federation generation, and so on shall that contribution shall
> continue well into the future.  I say all of that to demonstrate the point
> that time is and will always remain on our side, and our commitment and
> cause shall never waiver or fade away to improve the lives, opportunities,
> and independence of we the blind of this great state and nation.  Giving 
> up
> just simply is not in the DNA of Federationists.  We know from where we 
> have
> been and come thus far, and our term has no end date, unlike the
> bureaucrats, politicians, and even the corrupt and evil foe who mean harm 
> to
> us as Federationists and our organization.  I as a Federationist know that
> which I can contribute as my part is vital and collective from generation 
> to
> generation, and I and we all owe it to our past generations and future
> generations in appreciation and gratitude for that which we have become
> beneficiaries in the cause of opportunity and independence, and a richer 
> and
> happier life because defeat and quitting were are are not in our DNA.
>
> True as it may be, those in power may provide our cause what appears as a
> setback, however, because our values, plans, commitment, progress and
> outcomes are long-term in nature, we the organized blind are not governed 
> by
> political polls, campaigns and votes, political and personal agendas,
> posturing, lies, and corruption.  we have the added benefit that we truly
> believe in our cause, that good shall overcome evil, and the bureaucrats,
> administrations, and politicians shal go and come and go again and again,
> their fragile short-term DNA dying off, while the integrity of our DNA 
> shall
> become immune to their infectious attacks and corruption, and we the
> organized blind of the Federation shall stand tall, strengthened, and
> turning any seemingly setback into just another opportunity to bring about
> greater advancement in the opportunities and independence for all blind
> persons.  There is no other organization of the blind speaking for the 
> blind
> that possesses the DNA that we the Federation carry within us, and neither
> is there an organization of the blind that can nor will stand proudly for
> the values and action required to achieve that which we desire and cherish
> for which we strive and work toward daily; opportunity and self-indepence
> for all blind persons.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe
> Sontag
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:53 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March
> 28,2013
>
> Joe, I appreciate your frustration and I don't have a clockwork plan for
> straightening things up, but giving up is not an option for me.  I'd be
> careful about insulting the entire "Commission" before we really know how
> they think and what they stand for.  Like them or not, they'll be here for 
> a
>
> while and we owe it to ourselves to work with them as best we can.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 17:52
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March
> 28,2013
>
>
>> What, precisely do you think we should do now, Larry?
>>
>> Not, to be a spoil sport or whatever, but what is left to salvage of this
>> miserable mess of a thing that is not only an insult to those who are
>> blind, but, also an insult to democracy and the democratic process by a
>> bunch of self-righteous and self-serving hacktoids who (I can't believe
>> I'm saying this) are even worse than Pat Cannon. This is I guess like
>> saying they're worse than Beelzebub, or visa versa, but you get my point.
>>
>> Time for real change and it ain't happening here until people get with
>> reality.
>>
>> Fred Shroeder and Fred Wertzel were dead on wrong on this one. Can't say
>> it any clearer than that!
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry Posont" <president.nfb.mi at gmail.com>
>> To: "nfbmi List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:06 PM
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March 28,
>> 2013
>>
>>
>>> Dear Michigan Federationists:
>>>
>>>     The Agenda for the Advisory Meeting is out. I have included it
>>> below my message. We need to get as many people to the Meeting as
>>> possible. It is on Thursday, in the Victor Building, from 10:00 to
>>> 12:30. Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Larry Posont
>>>
>>>> From: Luzenski, Sue (LARA)
>>> Subject: BSBP Commission meeting agenda for March 28, 2013
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Commission for Blind Persons (Commission)
>>>>
>>>> Thursday, March 28, 2013
>>>>
>>>> Victor Bldg, 3rd Floor, Conference room A/B,
>>>>
>>>> 201 N. Washington Square
>>>>
>>>> Lansing, MI
>>>>
>>>> 10:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meeting Agenda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Live audio streaming of the meeting will be available online at the
>>>> Bureau
>>>> of Services for Blind Persons (Bureau) web site at 
>>>> www.michigan.gov/bsbp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To listen to the Commission meeting over the telephone
>>>>
>>>> Dial:  1-877-873-8017
>>>>
>>>> Passcode: 7502991#
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Participants:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Commission:    Lylas G. Mogk, Chair
>>>>
>>>>                              LeeAnn Buckingham            Michael J.
>>>> Hudson
>>>>
>>>>                              Marianne Dunn                     Josie
>>>> Barnes-Parker
>>>>
>>>>                              Gary Gaynor                         Joseph
>>>> E.
>>>> Sibley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (Bureau):
>>>>
>>>>                  Edward F. Rodgers II, Director
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      I.        Call to Order, Welcome
>>>>
>>>> Mission Statement                L. Mogk 10:00-10:05
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    II.        Introductions                          All
>>>>              10:05-10:15
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   III.        Approval of transcript of Jan 17, 2013
>>>>
>>>> L. Mogk                         10:15-10:20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IV.        Consumer Services Subcommittee
>>>>
>>>> J. Barnes-Parker         10:20-10:50
>>>>
>>>> G. Gaynor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   V.        Training Center Subcommittee
>>>>
>>>> M. Dunn                        10:50-11:20
>>>>
>>>>                                                           M. Hudson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VI.        BEP Subcommittee:             L. Buckingham
>>>> 11:20-11:40
>>>>
>>>>                                                           J. Sibley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VII     HR 4256: Implications for BEP
>>>> 11:40-11:50
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> E. Rodgers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VIII    Director's Vision: Changes Envisioned for BSBP
>>>>
>>>> E. Rodgers                   11:50-12:05
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IX    Next Steps                               L. Mogk
>>>>   12:05-12:10
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> X     Public Comment
>>>>    12:10-12:25
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> XI    Adjournment                            L. Mogk
>>>> 12:25
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Please note new public comment email address)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *NOTE: Public comment may be submitted in written form until 5:00 p.m.
>>>> April
>>>> 1, 2013 via email to bsbppubliccomments at gmail.com included in whole as
>>>> an
>>>> addendum to the meeting minutes.  Emails received outside of this time
>>>> frame
>>>> are not considered part of Public Comment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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