[nfbmi-talk] from wisconsin on 14 c

Tue Nov 5 09:06:23 UTC 2013

Good point Joe.  In addition, it sounds from these status-quo advocates that
persons qwith disabilities are the only persons whom need skill development
on getting to work on time and appropriate behavior on-the-job!  Also they
cite threat of the potential of persons with disabilities becoming
incarcerated in the prisons, should Can Do and their likes no longer exist.
What a huge burden there would be placed on a prison system already crowded
by persons with disabilities and addictions, which are considered
disabilities in themselves, and as if prisons are only occupied by "normal"
persons!  OR as if slave jobs and workshop settings give more dignity and
respect than any prison environment.  The only equality is the pay behind
bars and in slave sweatshops are likely to be similar.  My solution is to
have potential executives work side-by-side the persons with disabilities
for a year at the same pay, and see if they need to learn skills about
showing up on time or at all for work!

As a former employer of a wide range of persons with disabilities, I can
proudly say those employees with disabilities are the most dedicated,
on-time, near zero absence, hard-working, motivated, and well behaved
on-the-job, than their non-disabled fellow employees.  Plus employees with
disabilities appreciate the opportunity to work and be productive, and
relish the dignity and respect afforded them as an equal on a business team!

We need to abolish slavery for all, and instill dignity and respect to all
persons!

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Just think: the exec at Kandu might have to work for less if they had to pay

their disabled workers the minimum wage.  I'd like to know what the  brass 
at Kandu is "earning."
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Work in progress: Local nonprofits concerned about proposed law change

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By

Catherine W. Idzerda

November 3, 2013

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Nick Agro/nagro at gazettextra.com

Workers at KANDU Industries in Janesville attach labels to Christmas candy 
containers. Federal changes might mean the end for sheltered workshops such 
as

KANDU.

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THE PROPOSED LAW

House of Representative Bill 831 is the "Fair Wages for Workers with 
Disabilities Act of 2013." The Congressional Research Service, a nonpartisan

division

of the Library of Congress, described it this way: "Directs the Secretary of

Labor to discontinue issuing to any new profit or non-profit or governmental

entity special wage certificates (which permit individuals with 
disabilities, including individuals employed in agriculture, to be paid at 
lower than minimum

wages)."

The bill was introduced in February and was referred to the House Committee 
on Education and the Workforce. The bill has 46 co-sponsors including Rep. 
Gwen

Moore, D-Milwaukee.  Of the 46 co-sponsors, 34 are Democrats, 12 are 
Republicans.

JANESVILLE-It sounds like a good thing.

House of Representatives Bill 831, the "Fair Wages for Workers with 
Disabilities Act of 2013," would no longer allow businesses to pay people 
with disabilities

less than the minimum wage.

What could be wrong with that?

Plenty, according advocates for people with disabilities and nonprofits who 
work with them.

HR 831 would effectively close sheltered workshop programs, leaving a 
significant number of people with disabilities without any work at all, 
advocates

say.

"It's the big push coming out of Washington," said Gary Bersell, executive 
director of KANDU Industries. "It would prohibit the use of Medicaid funds 
for

participants in segregated programs."

Local nonprofits such as Riverfront and KANDU provide "prevocational 
services" for people with cognitive disabilities and physical disabilities.

Those services range from job coaching in the community to training good 
work habits such as arriving on time and proper behavior for the workplace.

They also include a variety of paid work in what the federal government 
refers to as a "sheltered workshop," a business that allows people with 
disabilities

to work at either piece-rate or at a commensurate wage. These usually are 
separate businesses, places that cater to and offer other services for 
people

with disabilities.

Sheltered workshops have critics, too.

The National Disability Rights Network issued a report in 2011 called 
"Segregated and Exploited: The Failure of the Disability Service System to 
Provide

Quality Work."

In 2012, the group applauded a case filed by Disability Rights Oregon on 
behalf of a group of people who wanted to work in community settings, but 
"were

segregated into sheltered workshops," according to a news release by the 
National Disability Rights Network.

Although the case was thrown out on a technicality, "the court determined 
that the plaintiffs have valid claims under Title II of the Americans with 
Disabilities

Act (ADA) and that the integration mandate applies to the provision of 
employment-related services" the news release said.

For some advocates, the right of disabled people to work in an integrated 
workplace is similar to the right to live in the community or to be 
integrated

into the public school system.

"The courts have long said it is discrimination to require people with 
disabilities to live in institutions to receive services," said Curtis 
Decker, National

Disability Rights Network executive director. "It is gratifying to now know 
people with disabilities can now look to the courts to ensure they do not 
face

the same discrimination in the workplace."

UNIQUE CHALLENGES

Pay at sheltered workshops is determined by studying similar jobs in the 
community.

"We do wage studies in the community," Bersell said. "If assemblers in the 
community are making, say, $10 an hour, and a person with disabilities can 
do

that job at 25 percent (of average speed), then they would make $2.50 an 
hour."

The goal is to have everyone work in the community, Bersell said.

That usually involves finding a workplace where individuals' skills can be 
used and providing on-site job coaching.

In the past two years, 94 people from KANDU have been placed in the 
community, Bersell said.

"We're very proud of that," Bersell said. "But one size doesn't fit all."

Often, even people who work in the community only do so on a part-time 
basis. On the other days, they return to KANDU for work or other activities.

KANDU and similar workplaces also serve as social networks for people with 
disabilities.

Bersell worries that if people with disabilities don't have an appropriate 
place to go during they day, they won't have enough to do "and could get in 
trouble"

and end up in the criminal justice system.

Andy Anselmi is regional director for Riverfront, the La Crosse-based 
company that provides a variety of services to individuals with 
disabilities. In Janesville,

more than 100 people receive "prevocational services" from the company.

He estimated at least half of the 100 individuals who work at Riverfront 
will never be able to work in the community.

"They need personal care assistance, they might have medical needs to take 
care of, such as insulin checks," Anselmi said. "And then there are people 
who

have unique behavioral challenges.

"We do offer unique solutions to address those issues in the community," 
Anselmi said. "But it's not one size fits all."

'A NEEDED ENTITY'

John Hanewall, director of Rock County's Developmental Disabilities Board, 
thinks segregated work places have a role.

"I think that places such as KANDU and Riverfront provide services for these

individuals so they can work," Hanewall said. "They're definitely a needed

entity."

There aren't enough jobs in the community for people with cognitive 
disabilities, he said.

And even if there were, many people with developmental disabilities also 
have physical disabilities.

"Who is going to modify some of these jobs, who is going to develop 
assistive devices so people can work? Hanewall said. "Is an employer going 
to be willing

to do that? Probably not."

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