[nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request for Informationon Minutes/Transcripts, State Plan and BSBP Directory

Tue Oct 29 14:01:27 UTC 2013

Precisely Sir! And it is long since time that the money changers in the 
temple of BSBP are literally whipped in to shape.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Moore" <moorederek at yahoo.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request for Informationon 
Minutes/Transcripts, State Plan and BSBP Directory

For the love of money is the root of all evil.

Derek E Moore, M.Ed
Grand Rapids, MI 49507

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 From: joe harcz Comcast <joeharcz at comcast.net>
To: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:46 AM
Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request for Information on 
Minutes/Transcripts, State Plan and BSBP Directory

----- Original Message ----- 
From: joe harcz Comcast
To: Elmer Cerano (E-mail)
Cc: MARK MCWILLIAMS ; BRIAN SABOURIN
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:45 AM
Subject: Fw: FOIA Response to Request for Information on 
Minutes/Transcripts, State Plan and BSBP Directory

----- Original Message ----- 
From: joe harcz Comcast
To: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: FOIA Response to Request for Information on 
Minutes/Transcripts, State Plan and BSBP Directory

Yes and here you once again wish to charge me for minutes! How utterly 
insane is that? And how bloody of a violation of the OMA is this?

By the way violations of the Michigan Open Meetings Act like this is are not 
just civil violations but also are criminal violations. In fact it is 
amisdeamor.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
To: joe harcz Comcast
Cc: Rodgers, Edward (LARA) ; Luzenski, Sue (LARA) ; Pemble, Mike (LARA) ; 
Belknap, Katie (LARA) ; Duell, Elsie (LARA)
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 5:02 PM
Subject: FOIA Response to Request for Information on Minutes/Transcripts, 
State Plan and BSBP Directory

October 28, 2013

Mr. Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net

1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.

Mt. Morris, MI 48458

Re: FOIA Response to Request for Information on Minutes/Transcripts, State 
Plan and BSBP Staff Directory

Dear Mr. Harcz, Jr.:

This email is in response to your October 21, 2013, email requests for 
information, received by this office on October 22, 2013. Please be advised 
that the Bureau of Services for Blind Persons is processing these requests 
under the state's Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), MCL 15.231 et seq.

You have requested information as described in your emails (which are also 
below) as:

"You said at Saturday's NFB MI meeting that BSBP routinely posts information 
related to commissioners meetings including minutes/transcripts and State 
Plan information which I've requested...

Moreover even the office and staff directory has not been updated (see it 
and the link after my signature line for your convenience). In fact it 
doesn't even include you. Now can you send me this stuff in accessible 
format without another ludicrous and illegal abuse of the FOIA?"

(Description from email of 10-24-13 at 3:24PM): "Your name is listed but 
there are still many changes in the staff directory here which doesn't 
include those who have left the or new additions..."

In regards to your request for minutes/transcripts, you previously requested 
this information on August 9, 2014, and of which you received a response on 
August 29, 2013, granting the information and requesting payment for these 
records.

FOIA Response - P.J. Harcz, Jr.

October 28, 2013

Page 2 of 2

To date, we have not received your payment for this request. We are 
currently in the process of updating our website to include this 
information.

In regards to your request for the State Plan for FY14, this document has 
been approved by the Rehabilitation Services Administration and has been 
posted to our website (www.michigan.gov/bsbp), under Resources.

In regards to your request for an updated BSBP directory, in order to 
determine the extent of the research time, the size and number of records of 
nonexempt information within BSBP responsive to your request, a search must 
be undertaken. For this reason, it is necessary to extend the time for 
response, as permitted by Section 5(2)(d) of the FOIA, through November 12, 
2013, for this portion of your request.

If it is determined that there is a cost involved in the processing of this 
request, you will be sent an email which will include an invoice outlining 
that cost (before or no later than November 12, 2013). This email may either 
request a deposit (if the cost is over $50.00) or request payment of the 
total cost if the amount is under $50.00.

Please note that nothing within the federal American with Disabilities Act 
(ADA), Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (RA), as amended, or 
the state's FOIA (MCL 15.231 et seq.) requires a public body to process FOIA 
requests free of charge. Further, while the ADA and Section 504 of the RA 
may mandate that, upon request, material be produced in an accessible format 
without charge, neither the ADA or Section 504 of the RA preclude a public 
body from charging costs under the state's FOIA. Thusly, please note that no 
labor fee charges have been, or will be, assessed to convert existing, 
nonexempt public records responsive to your requests into an accessible 
format to forward to you.

Sincerely,

Carla Miller Haynes, FOIA Coordinator

Bureau of Services for Blind Persons

Attachments: Two Email Requests for Information

cc:   Edward F. Rodgers II, Sue Luzenski

Mike Pemble, Katie Belknap

Elsie Duell

From: joe harcz Comcast [mailto:joeharcz at comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:11 PM
To: Rodgers, Edward (LARA)
Cc: Zimmer, Mike (LARA); BSBPcommissioners; nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org; Elmer 
Cerano (E-mail); BRIAN SABOURIN; Christyne.Cavataio at ed.gov
Subject: information and access please basic directory and minutes

October 21 2013 to Rodgers on BSBP Info including Directory

Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

joeharcz at comcast.net

To Ed Rodgers, BSBP

And BSBP Commissioners

(via e-mail)

Dear Mr. Rodgers,

You said at Saturday's NFB MI meeting that BSBP routinely posts information 
related to commissioners meetings including minutes/transcripts and State 
Plan information which I've requested. Simple fact that you and it does not 
do so and all one needs do is visit the web site which I do.

Moreover even the office and staff directory has not been updated (see it 
and the link after my signature line for your convenience). In fact it 
doesn't even include you.

Now can you send me this stuff in accessible format without another 
ludicrous and illegal abuse of the FOIA? Or should I begin charging this 
federally funded entity for all the work and research I do like getting an 
accurate staff directory, minutes/transcripts and State Plan information for 
crying out loud?

Sincerely,

Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

Cc: MPAS

Cc: NFB MI

Cc: RSA

-----Original Message-----

From: joe harcz Comcast [mailto:joeharcz at comcast.net]

Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:24 PM

To: Rodgers, Edward (LARA)

Cc: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org

Subject: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] information and access please basic directory 
andminutes

Sorry slight amendmendment here. Your name is listed but there are still 
many changes in the staff directory here which doesn't include those who 
have left the agency or new additions like say Mike Pemble, or Robert 
Essenberg since October 1, 2012.

----- Original Message -----

From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>

To: "Rodgers, Edward (LARA)" <rodgerse at michigan.gov>

Cc: <Christyne.Cavataio at ed.gov>; "Elmer Cerano (E-mail)" <ecerano at aol.com>; 
<nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "BRIAN SABOURIN" <BSABOUR at mpas.org>; 
<bsbpcommissioners at michigan.gov>; <zimmerm at michigan.gov>

Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:11 PM

Subject: [nfbmi-talk] information and access please basic directory 
andminutes

October 21 2013 to Rodgers on BSBP Info including Directory

Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

joeharcz at comcast.net

To Ed Rodgers, BSBP

And BSBP Commissioners

(via e-mail)

Dear Mr. Rodgers,

You said at Saturday's NFB MI meeting that BSBP routinely posts information 
related to commissioners meetings including minutes/transcripts and State 
Plan information which I've requested. Simple fact that you and it does not 
do so and all one needs do is visit the web site which I do.

Moreover even the office and staff directory has not been updated (see it 
and the link after my signature line for your convenience). In fact it 
doesn't even include you.

Now can you send me this stuff in accessible format without another 
ludicrous and illegal abuse of the FOIA? Or should I begin charging this 
federally funded entity for all the work and research I do like getting an 
accurate staff directory, minutes/transcripts and State Plan information for 
crying out loud?

Sincerely,

Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

Cc: MPAS

Cc: NFB MI

Cc: RSA

Link:

http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-61256_28313_33130-15006--,00.html

Carla Miller Haynes

LARA Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (BSBP)

201 N. Washington Square, 2nd Floor

P.O. Box 30652

Lansing, MI 48909

Telephone: 517-373-2063 or Toll-Free 1-800-292-4200

Fax: 517-335-5140

www.michigan.gov/bsbp
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