[nfbmi-talk] Fw: Fw: Fw: FOIA Response to Request forInformationonMinutes/Transcripts, State Plan and B

[joe harcz Comcast]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
To: "BRIAN SABOURIN" <BSABOUR at mpas.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request 
forInformationonMinutes/Transcripts, State Plan and B


> And they still wish to charge me for meeting minutes of the commission and 
> the EOC in violation of the Rehab Act, 504, and even the Michigan OMA.....
>
> This is supposedly the lead organization for blind people Brian and they 
> are abusive in the extreme over lack of accessible and timely information.
>
> I routinely get minutes agendas etc. from my local school district without 
> a muss or fuss or a charge for searching for this.
>
> I do not know what MPAS does not understand about our right to know?
>
>
> And this goes to your role on the SRC too Brian.
>
> I'm sick to death of the violations, civil rights violations repeated over 
> and over again by this federally funded agency.
>
>
> And don't forget they haven't even sent me an accessible VR application!
>
> What more do I need to prove?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "BRIAN SABOURIN" <BSABOUR at mpas.org>
> To: "joe Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request 
> forInformationonMinutes/Transcripts, State Plan and B
>
>
>> Hi Joe:
>>
>> The BSBS staff directory is available on-line.
>>
>>>>> "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net> 10/30/2013 8:28 AM >>>
>>    They want to charge me for minutes and to research a staff
>> directory?
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request for
>> InformationonMinutes/Transcripts, State Plan and BSBP Directory
>>
>>
>>> Just more BS4BP!   Wonder what conflict-of-interest Mr. Rodgers has
>> to
>>> hide
>>> here by preventing information disclosure through abusive and
>> oppressive
>>> charging of fees?  Perhaps it is more highly paid unqualified and
>>> incompetent sighted and blind employees added to the taxpayer
>>> rehabilitation
>>> funds feeding pen?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> joe
>>> harcz Comcast
>>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 8:10 PM
>>> To: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Christyne.Cavataio at ed.gov
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request for Information
>>> onMinutes/Transcripts, State Plan and BSBP Directory
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
>>> To: joe harcz Comcast
>>> Cc: Rodgers, Edward (LARA) ; Luzenski, Sue (LARA) ; Pemble, Mike
>> (LARA) ;
>>> Belknap, Katie (LARA) ; Duell, Elsie (LARA)
>>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 5:02 PM
>>> Subject: FOIA Response to Request for Information on
>> Minutes/Transcripts,
>>> State Plan and BSBP Directory
>>>
>>>
>>> October 28, 2013
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mr. Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>> E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net
>>>
>>> 1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
>>>
>>> Mt. Morris, MI 48458
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Re:  FOIA Response to Request for Information on Minutes/Transcripts,
>>
>>> State
>>> Plan and BSBP Staff Directory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Harcz, Jr.:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This email is in response to your October 21, 2013, email requests
>> for
>>> information, received by this office on October 22, 2013.  Please be
>>
>>> advised
>>> that the Bureau of Services for Blind Persons is processing these
>> requests
>>> under the state's Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), MCL 15.231 et
>> seq.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You have requested information as described in your emails (which are
>> also
>>> below) as:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "You said at Saturday's NFB MI meeting that BSBP routinely posts
>>> information
>>> related to commissioners meetings including minutes/transcripts and
>> State
>>> Plan information which I've requested...
>>>
>>> Moreover even the office and staff directory has not been updated
>> (see it
>>> and the link after my signature line for your convenience). In fact
>> it
>>> doesn't even include you.  Now can you send me this stuff in
>> accessible
>>> format without another ludicrous and illegal abuse of the FOIA?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (Description from email of 10-24-13 at 3:24PM): "Your name is listed
>> but
>>> there are still many changes in the staff directory here which
>> doesn't
>>> include those who have left the or new additions..."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In regards to your request for minutes/transcripts, you previously
>>> requested
>>> this information on August 9, 2014, and of which you received a
>> response
>>> on
>>> August 29, 2013, granting the information and requesting payment for
>> these
>>> records.
>>>
>>> FOIA Response - P.J. Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>> October 28, 2013
>>>
>>> Page 2 of 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To date, we have not received your payment for this request.  We are
>>> currently in the process of updating our website to include this
>>> information.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In regards to your request for the State Plan for FY14, this document
>> has
>>> been approved by the Rehabilitation Services Administration and has
>> been
>>> posted to our website (www.michigan.gov/bsbp), under Resources.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In regards to your request for an updated BSBP directory, in order
>> to
>>> determine the extent of the research time, the size and number of
>> records
>>> of
>>> nonexempt information within BSBP responsive to your request, a
>> search
>>> must
>>> be undertaken.  For this reason, it is necessary to extend the time
>> for
>>> response, as permitted by Section 5(2)(d) of the FOIA, through
>> November
>>> 12,
>>> 2013, for this portion of your request.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If it is determined that there is a cost involved in the processing
>> of
>>> this
>>> request, you will be sent an email which will include an invoice
>> outlining
>>> that cost (before or no later than November 12, 2013).  This email
>> may
>>> either request a deposit (if the cost is over $50.00) or request
>> payment
>>> of
>>> the total cost if the amount is under $50.00.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that nothing within the federal American with
>> Disabilities Act
>>> (ADA), Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (RA), as
>> amended, or
>>> the state's FOIA (MCL 15.231 et seq.) requires a public body to
>> process
>>> FOIA
>>> requests free of charge.  Further, while the ADA and Section 504 of
>> the RA
>>> may mandate that, upon request, material be produced in an accessible
>>
>>> format
>>> without charge, neither the ADA or Section 504 of the RA preclude a
>> public
>>> body from charging costs under the state's FOIA. Thusly, please note
>> that
>>> no
>>> labor fee charges have been, or will be, assessed to convert
>> existing,
>>> nonexempt public records responsive to your requests into an
>> accessible
>>> format to forward to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carla Miller Haynes, FOIA Coordinator
>>>
>>> Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attachments:  Two Email Requests for Information
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cc:     Edward F. Rodgers II, Sue Luzenski
>>>
>>>          Mike Pemble, Katie Belknap
>>>
>>> Elsie Duell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: joe harcz Comcast [mailto:joeharcz at comcast.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:11 PM
>>> To: Rodgers, Edward (LARA)
>>> Cc: Zimmer, Mike (LARA); BSBPcommissioners; nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org;
>> Elmer
>>> Cerano (E-mail); BRIAN SABOURIN; Christyne.Cavataio at ed.gov
>>> Subject: information and access please basic directory and minutes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> October 21 2013 to Rodgers on BSBP Info including Directory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>> joeharcz at comcast.net
>>>
>>> To Ed Rodgers, BSBP
>>>
>>> And BSBP Commissioners
>>>
>>> (via e-mail)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Rodgers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You said at Saturday's NFB MI meeting that BSBP routinely posts
>>> information
>>> related to commissioners meetings including minutes/transcripts and
>> State
>>> Plan information which I've requested. Simple fact that you and it
>> does
>>> not
>>> do so and all one needs do is visit the web site which I do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Moreover even the office and staff directory has not been updated
>> (see it
>>> and the link after my signature line for your convenience). In fact
>> it
>>> doesn't even include you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now can you send me this stuff in accessible format without another
>>> ludicrous and illegal abuse of the FOIA? Or should I begin charging
>> this
>>> federally funded entity for all the work and research I do like
>> getting an
>>> accurate staff directory, minutes/transcripts and State Plan
>> information
>>> for crying out loud?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cc: MPAS
>>>
>>> Cc: NFB MI
>>>
>>> Cc: RSA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: joe harcz Comcast [mailto:joeharcz at comcast.net]
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:24 PM
>>>
>>> To: Rodgers, Edward (LARA)
>>>
>>> Cc: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>
>>> Subject: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] information and access please basic
>> directory
>>> andminutes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry slight amendmendment here. Your name is listed but there are
>> still
>>> many changes in the staff directory here which doesn't include those
>> who
>>> have left the agency or new additions like say Mike Pemble, or
>> Robert
>>> Essenberg since October 1, 2012.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>>>
>>> To: "Rodgers, Edward (LARA)" <rodgerse at michigan.gov>
>>>
>>> Cc: <Christyne.Cavataio at ed.gov>; "Elmer Cerano (E-mail)"
>>> <ecerano at aol.com>;
>>> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "BRIAN SABOURIN" <BSABOUR at mpas.org>;
>>> <bsbpcommissioners at michigan.gov>; <zimmerm at michigan.gov>
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:11 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] information and access please basic directory
>>> andminutes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> October 21 2013 to Rodgers on BSBP Info including Directory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> joeharcz at comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To Ed Rodgers, BSBP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And BSBP Commissioners
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (via e-mail)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Rodgers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You said at Saturday's NFB MI meeting that BSBP routinely posts
>>> information
>>> related to commissioners meetings including minutes/transcripts and
>> State
>>> Plan information which I've requested. Simple fact that you and it
>> does
>>> not
>>> do so and all one needs do is visit the web site which I do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Moreover even the office and staff directory has not been updated
>> (see it
>>> and the link after my signature line for your convenience). In fact
>> it
>>> doesn't even include you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now can you send me this stuff in accessible format without another
>>> ludicrous and illegal abuse of the FOIA? Or should I begin charging
>> this
>>> federally funded entity for all the work and research I do like
>> getting an
>>> accurate staff directory, minutes/transcripts and State Plan
>> information
>>> for
>>> crying out loud?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cc: MPAS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cc: NFB MI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cc: RSA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Link:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-61256_28313_33130-15006--,00.html
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carla Miller Haynes
>>>
>>> LARA Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (BSBP)
>>>
>>> 201 N. Washington Square, 2nd Floor
>>>
>>> P.O. Box 30652
>>>
>>> Lansing, MI  48909
>>>
>>> Telephone:  517-373-2063 or Toll-Free 1-800-292-4200
>>>
>>> Fax:  517-335-5140
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.michigan.gov/bsbp
>>>
>>>
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