[nfbmi-talk] i have to do same for even ada surveys etc

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Thu Sep 12 21:34:43 UTC 2013


Nope. They didn't charge the City of Davison. But, little ole Joe Harcz, who 
happens to be blind these state hacks want to charge for everything even the 
time to pick their seats?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
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> At least the Snyder administration is an equal opportunity hide the
> information from the citizens, whether private citizen, elected
> representative, or governmental unit!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> harcz Comcast
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>
> Absolutely ridiculous' demand that Davison go through Freedom of 
> Information
> request for MDOT information has city leaders fuming. Roberto Acosta |
> racosta1 at mlive.com
>
> . View full size Some Davison council members are upset the city has had 
> to
> file a Freedom of Information Act request to view portions of a traffic
> study.
>
> Roberto Acosta | MLive.com DAVISON, MI - Leaders in Davison say it's
> ridiculous the city had to file a Freedom of Information Act request with
> the Michigan
>
> Department of Transportation to find out why the state agency denied a
> request for a left-turn arrow at a busy intersection. MDOT told the city 
> to
> file
>
> a FOIA request for a traffic survey, crash data and Synchro analysis
> measuring traffic congestion. The city had received a letter with a 
> summary
> letter
>
> of a study the at M-15 and Flint Street intersection on the northern end 
> of
> the city. You thought that they would have sent it with the letter," said
> Mayor
>
> Tim Bishop. He said the city received the detailed information Wednesday,
> Sept. 11, following an Aug. 27 email from City Manager Michael Hart to 
> MDOT
> requesting
>
> it under the Freedom of Information Act. Having to go through the trouble 
> of
> FOIAing something...to me that's absolutely ridiculous," Bishop said. The
>
> study was conducted following rejection of a similar request in 2006 
> asking
> for a left turn arrow on a traffic signal to reduce crash incidences. Bill
>
> Perod, FOIA coordinator for MDOT, said the state agency received a request
> from the city for the additional information, "but they don't have to go
> through
>
> the typical process. We log the FOIA request in, but we don't make them go
> through the process," he said. We're going to give them the data we have.
> We're
>
> not going to charge them for anything. But Bishop did not like the process
> the city went through to receive the information, especially regarding
> traffic
>
> counts, which he said is the main reason an arrow is not being considered 
> by
> MDOT at the intersection. It's just uncomfortable we have to FOIA 
> something
>
> from our own government agency," he said, while questioning the delay
> getting the information from the state agency. Three of them qualified 
> under
> (MDOT's)
>
> qualifications," said Bishop of three-quarters of the approaches at the
> intersection meeting the required 90 vehicles per hour count. What is so 
> off
> on
>
> that fourth one where we are getting denied the request for that turn 
> arrow?
> Are we at 88, 89 or are we at 15, 16? The summary letter from MDOT to 
> Linda
>
> Burchell, manager of the MDOT Davison Transportation Center, states 
> head-on
> crashes are down from 12 in 2006 to six in 2012 at the intersection, as 
> well
>
> as a reduction in traffic jams on Flint Street during the same period.
> Councilman Paul Hammond said aside from wanting to know about the traffic
> count,
>
> "I think the summary was very clear. The answer is, 'No. We're not going 
> to
> allow it.' He said MDOT is "inconsistent" in terms of traffic measures
> "because
>
> we have quite a restriction at M-15 and Lapeer Road and that doesn't seem 
> to
> bother them" with a left turn arrow creating some congestion. During a
> recent
>
> council meeting, City Manager Hart said he wanted to have a chance to
> evaluate the other portions of the study so he could explain why the 
> request
> was
>
> turned down. Regarding the FOIA request the city had to file for the
> information, Hammond said, "I have no answer at all. MDOT has to answer 
> that
> question.
>
> I can't begin even to imagine why (a request was needed)," he said. Any
> comment I would have would not be too kind to MDOT.
>
>
>
>
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