[nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Mon Sep 16 01:38:56 UTC 2013


I am wondering once and for all where in the heck our fought for motions, 
decrees and indeed information paid for by the NFB MI relative to the Open 
Meetings Act case are nowadays Fred?

These things go back a ways nowadays and yet the membership and the public 
don't have this information which is vital to show a pattern and practice of 
discrimination. I've been apprised this information is in your hands. It is 
public information and I'd like to see it for one sir.

This information does not again belong to you or anyone for that matter 
individually. It belongs to we the people and goes to long standing abuses 
of the rights of people who are blind let alone those of the NFB which paid 
for this information collectively.
Please sir give these information up to the body collective and please don't 
obsicate it either!

There are damages that can result to all of us if you don't submit it. 
Really there are and please, remit them to again we the body politic, or we 
the people of both NFB and the blind community.

These things are not your personal position and never have been so.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style


> Oh, I never thought of that.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
> harcz Comcast
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:28 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
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> The fact sheat is written in to law both in the promulgated rules, and 
> more
> Certaintly in the statute and regs of the Rehab Act ad Randolph Shepard 
> Act,
> along with of course Public Act 260. How many violations of law and equity
> might we suffer without remedy?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
> To: "'Joe Sontag'" <suncat0 at gmail.com>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing
> List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
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>
>> Hi,  This is the basis of a very good fact sheet.
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Joe Sontag
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:51 PM
>> To: Marcus Simmons; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
>>
>> He said that all of the concern was based on "misinformation," that
>> Tim Hortons was not going into the State Capitol and that MSU ice
>> cream would be available at the Capitol and Anderson Buildings.
>>
>> Never mind that the Capitol will be a satellite of the Anderson, where
>> the real Timmy's going in, just across the street from the Capitol,
>> with a level
>> 17 and 2 level 12 employees and ten student assistants to run it all.
>> Never
>> mind that the Lesislature is not exempt from the food service priority
>> established under PA260 of 1978 as amended.  Never mind that many of
>> those who work in the Anderson House Office Building now believe that
>> a blind person is not capable of or willing to take on a facility like
>> the Anderson or that the very Agency that is supposed to be with and
>> behind us is shamelessly selling blind people down the river.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marcus Simmons" <president at map-n.org>
>> To: "Joe Sontag" <suncat0 at gmail.com>; "NFB of Michigan Internet
>> Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:37
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
>>
>>
>>> What did they say? Thru all of the laughing and joking around, I
>>> could not follow.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joe Sontag" <suncat0 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBMI List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 11:40 AM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here's what Mike Zimmer said to SILC last Friday about the mystery
>>>> franchise.
>>>>
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22266576/ZimmerSILC09132013.mp3
>>>>
>>>> When will they learn that some of us were once children and have
>>>> moved well beyond childhood?
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