[nfbmi-talk] Fw: doj weighs in on nfb uber suit

Fred Wurtzel f.wurtzel at att.net
Sun Dec 28 02:35:27 UTC 2014

Hello Joe,

Again, leadership demands that members step up with a plan, be willing to
work with others to implement the plan, suffer setbacks and forge ahead and
be in it for the long haul.  We have demonstrated ability to accomplish
large goals.  These accomplishments took years to do with many people
devoting lots of time.  They cannot be done remote control with email.  It
is only with boots on the ground that we build relationships and are able to
influence policy.

Warmest Regards,


-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe
Sontag via nfbmi-talk
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 1:07 PM
To: David Robinson; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: doj weighs in on nfb uber suit

I don't think we stand opposed to civil rights for the blind. Speaking for
me and me only, I have had enough of one or two people who say that they are
the ultimate authority on civil rights, endlessly tell us what's wrong with
almost everything under the stars and demand that everybody else "do
something about it," as they find even more problems for everyone else to
solve. That's no way to run a railroad, or so it seems to me.
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 8:40
Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: doj weighs in on nfb uber suit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: joe harcz Comcast 
To: Larry Posont NFBMI Pres. 
Cc: terry Eagle ; Mark Eagle ; mary wurtzel ; Terri Wilcox NFB Sec ; David
Robinson NFB MI ; Derek Moore ; Larry D Keeler ; J.J. Meddaugh NFB MI 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:09 AM
Subject: doj weighs in on nfb uber suit

It is interesting how federationists  actually fight for the rights of blind
persons in San Francisco under the ADA. Yet, we seem to here in Michigan for
the most part ignore rights of the blind including the right to access
information in our most effective format and in a timely manner from state
agencies; the right to have raised character and Braille signage on every
permanent room and the right not to be discriminated against in hiring
practices by the likes of BSBP.
I thought we were a civil rights organization and the ADA and Section 504
are civil rights laws.

Obama administration takes sides in disability suit against Uber


By Bob Egelko


Updated 2:43 pm, Tuesday, December 23, 2014


The Obama administration weighed in Tuesday on the side of advocates for the
blind in a San Francisco federal court suit accusing ride-on-demand company

Uber of discriminating against passengers with guide dogs.


In its court filing, the

Justice Department

did not endorse the specific allegations of discrimination but said
companies like Uber are covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act,
which requires

equal treatment and reasonable accommodations for disabled customers.


Uber has denied discriminating but has also argued that it is not a
public-service provider  a public accommodation  covered by the
disability law.


The ADA applies to private entities that are primarily engaged in providing
transportation services, even if a company is not a public accommodation,

said the filing by Justice Department lawyers and U.S. Attorney

Melinda Haag

s office.


Uber also argued that it does not directly provide transportation services
but merely signs contracts with independent drivers. The Justice Department

that a transportation company may not contract away its ADA
responsibilities and is covered by the law if it operates a
demand-responsive system.


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