[nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

Tue Oct 28 04:00:46 UTC 2014

If I understood the majority sentiment of the Septemver Michigan NFB
affiliate leadership retreat participants, which included members of the
past and current board, the sentiment was that the affiliate should assume a
hands-off or non-proactive approach toward BS4BP acts and inactions that
negatively effect services to blind persons.  The sentiment as I understand,
is to direct efforts and pursue programs that are NFB based and designed to
assist NFB and non-NFB members in various skill and exploration for personal
growth and independence, with the hope of building the affiliate and
chapters and membership.  Is this the correct sentiment of the majority of
retreat participants?

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 11:49 AM
To: Lydia Anne Schuck; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

The agency should be sued in the Eastern District, Federal Court for:

-Chronic, documented violations of the ADA and Section 504, that are 
pernicious and malicious as the agents have been notified of obligations

-The agencies should be sued in U.S. Federal court for documented 
discrimination in the hiring of people who are blind.

It is as simple as that.

And anational was to have set up a conferance call on these issues.

Re; Last entry in retreat notes.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lydia Anne Schuck via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
Cc: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

> What is the next action step that should be taken to move ahead with this?
>
> Lydia Schuck, MSEd
> Research Associate, National Secondary Transition Technical Assistance 
> Center
> Western Michigan University
> 1908 W. Michigan Avenue, Mailstop 5259
> Kalamazoo, MI  49008
> phone 269.387.5990
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'joe harcz Comcast' <joeharcz at comcast.net>, 'NFB of Michigan Internet 
> Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:56:22 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info
>
> Amen!  Well said.  But who has the courage to bring about such results for
> the legal, ethical, and moral abuse and misappropriation, and misuse of
> power and authority.  Go along to get along does not require courage and
> integrity, rather it only requires lip-service and inaction, to promote 
> and
> advance the oppression and injustice.  To say nothing and not act in the
> face of corruption and injustice speaks loudly in and of itself.  Silence
> speaks loudly that discrimination and injustice is acceptable and promotes
> the status quo, so as to not rock the injustice to simply get along.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
> harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: Mark Eagle; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info
>
> While I agree with you in sentiment Peckham is a total evil, slave shop 
> and
> would not supply good paying jobs to PWD, or at least those with the most
> significant disabilities.
>
> In fact the Peckham's in this state; the community rehab organizations are
> the ones who really run through MARO our VR agencies including being the
> fiduciary for the Statewide Rehab Council. Again they are the illegal 
> tails
> wagging the dog.
>
> As per BSBP and the entire BEP program though I totally agree with you and
> Terry. It is a fraud, and a farce and a massive documented 
> misappropriation
> of VR funds.
>
> I, for one want it shut down and for the funds to go in to core
> rehabilitation services here. And for the scofflaws in BSBP/LARA to go to
> jail for the massive theft of those VR dollars. which are right now fora
> large part going to non-blind, non-disabled vendors and hacks sucking at 
> the
>
> public trough and literally stealing stands from the blind.
>
> Joe
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>; "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List"
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info
>
>
>>I am not a fan of peckham. But, if BSBP continues to place sighted
>>operators in facilities that are mandated under PA 260 for the blind and 
>>we
>
>>the blind don't fight for our rights to operate them. Then we shouldn't
>>hold our brothers and sister with other disabilities back from a job.
>>
>> The BEP has been corrupt for as long as I can remember. It has
>> discriminated against some great people. It has created an environment
>> where the blind fight amongst each other and not for each other. BEP 
>> staff
>
>> and operators have "used" their fellow blind "friends" to gain What I 
>> ask.
>
>> A broken system for future generations and few more pennies in their
>> pocket.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: 'joe harcz Comcast' <joeharcz at comcast.net>; 'NFB of Michigan Internet
>> Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info
>>
>>
>> Perhaps the payments are related to the future takeover of BEP by 
>> Peckham.
>> Sounds like a great marriage in rehabilitation.  After all, as pointed 
>> out
>> below both Peckham and BEP discriminate against blind persons in
>> rehabilitation services, employment, and subminimum wage employment, as
>> demonstrated by the current posted BEP employment opportunities, more 
>> than
>> 10 percent of the entire BS4BP Business Enterprise Program, are 
>> subminimum
>> wage, less than minum wage, for a required 50 hour business week, not
>> including shopping weekly for the business.
>>
>> Why not open up the BEP to persons with disabilities?  Peckham certainly
>> cannot do any worse than BS4BP in serving persons with disabilities.  At
>> least Peckham provides good supported employment srvices, job coaching 
>> for
>> on-the-job training, retention of employment services, and support
>> personnel
>> that actually show up at, and meaningfully interact with clients and
>> employers.  Peckham also provides necessary and appropriate equipment and
>> supports to their clients and employment-placed clients, except for blind
>> persons of record.  That is better than BS4BP BEP, who will not even
>> invest
>> in talking cash registers credit card readers, talking UPC readers for
>> inventory control, and Braille note for doing business  successfully, as 
>> a
>> blind business operator and their blind employees.  Yet BS4BP BEP expects
>> a
>> printed signed and notarized inventory from their blind operators.  And
>> there is no meaningful advocate, since the EOC is neutered and bought 
>> off.
>> To Give Peckham the BEP perhaps will replace sighted vending facilities
>> with
>> persons with disabilities, and the necessary and appropriate supports and
>> equipment for business success.  Since BEP simply does not serve blind
>> persons with meaningful employment.  I support the BEP expansion to other
>> persons with disabilities.  Perhaps we will see much needed support of 
>> our
>> nation's disabled war veterans, rather than sighted family members,
>> friends,
>> and intimate relationships of agency staff and blind operators.  Just
>> watch
>> what the BEP future holds, especially after the November re-election of
>> the
>> Snyder administration.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
>> harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk
>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 10:14 AM
>> To: Ed Rodgers BSBP Dir.
>> Cc: Marlene Malloy MCRS Dir.; Sarah Gravetti silc mcrs mcil; MARK CODY
>> mpas
>> pair; Sue Luzenski BSBP Adm. Ass.; Lewis,Anil; trina edmondson mcrs dac;
>> katie belknap bsbp; Christyne.Cavataio at ed.gov; Pemble,Mike (LARA);
>> nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org; BRIAN SABOURIN; Elmer Cerano MPAS; MARK MCWILLIAMS
>> MPAS
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info
>>
>> October 24 2010 BSBP Peckham Questions
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>
>> 1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
>>
>> Mt. Morris, MI 48458
>>
>> joeharcz at comcast.net
>>
>> 810-516-5262
>>
>> Edward F. Rodgers, IIDirector (Mich.) Bureau Services to Blind Persons
>>
>> (Via e-mail)
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr. Rodgers,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am writing you today to inquire specifically what the payments to
>> Peckham
>> Vocational Industries from BSBP (see ref. after signature line) were for.
>> It
>> is a very simple question sir.
>>
>>
>>
>> Moreover, I wish to inform you in case you didn't know it that Peckham 
>> has
>
>> a
>> track record documented in the public  domain of paying people with
>> disabilities sub-minimum wages and employing them in segregated work
>> settings. Moreover, again in documented fashion Peckham has discriminated
>> against blind people in its varius programs and services by not supplying
>> them with required reasonable accommodations and even has discriminatory
>> hiring practices  against people who are blind.
>>
>>
>>
>> Under Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 as amended one
>> recipient
>> of federal funds (BSBP)may not contract with a violator of 504 (Peckham).
>>
>>
>>
>> I've sent you statute and regulations in those regards in the past so
>> you've
>> been informed of obligations in these regards.
>>
>>
>>
>> I thank you in advance for your prompt and accessible response to this
>> inquiry.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cc: RSA
>>
>> Cc: NFB MI
>>
>> Cc: MPAS/CAP
>>
>> Cc: MCRS
>>
>> Cc: MI SILC
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachment:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Source:
>>
>>
>
http://media.state.mi.us/MiTransparency/Vendor/Warrants?y=2014&v=PECKHAM%20V
>>
>
OCATIONAL%20INDUSTRIES%20INC&a=641&g=Contractual%20Services%20Supplies%20and
>> %20Materials&Column=WarrantDate&Direction=Descending
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Payments to PECKHAM VOCATIONAL INDUSTRIES INC by LICENSING AND REGULATORY
>> AFFAIRS for fiscal year 2014
>>
>>
>>
>> Table with 4 columns and 20 rows
>>
>> Agency Name
>>
>> Category Description
>>
>> Warrant Date
>>
>> Payments Total
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 10/15/2014
>>
>> $2,202.00
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 9/26/2014
>>
>> $5,159.76
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 9/23/2014
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 9/15/2014
>>
>> $4,868.90
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 9/9/2014
>>
>> $250.00
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 8/13/2014
>>
>> $4,990.76
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 7/9/2014
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 6/19/2014
>>
>> $3,090.00
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 6/10/2014
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 5/12/2014
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 4/21/2014
>>
>> $1,735.44
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 4/14/2014
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 4/11/2014
>>
>> $620.00
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 3/20/2014
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 2/20/2014
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 1/28/2014
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 1/22/2014
>>
>> $3,419.76
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 12/18/2013
>>
>> $1,022.48
>>
>> LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS
>>
>> Contractual Services Supplies and Materials
>>
>> 11/18/2013
>>
>> $2,044.96
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