[nfbmi-talk] Clarification Neededn

Wed Oct 29 02:35:23 UTC 2014

Lydia,

Will you please clarification on which issue or topic you are asking what is
the next action needed to be taken?

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Lydia Anne Schuck via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>

> To: <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>

> Cc: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>

> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 11:11 AM

> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

> 

> 

>> What is the next action step that should be taken to move ahead with 

>> this?

>> 

>> Lydia Schuck, MSEd

>> Research Associate, National Secondary Transition Technical 

>> Assistance Center Western Michigan University

>> 1908 W. Michigan Avenue, Mailstop 5259 Kalamazoo, MI  49008 phone 

>> 269.387.5990

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>

>> To: 'joe harcz Comcast' <joeharcz at comcast.net>, 'NFB of Michigan 

>> Internet Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>

>> Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:56:22 -0400 (EDT)

>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

>> 

>> Amen!  Well said.  But who has the courage to bring about such 

>> results for the legal, ethical, and moral abuse and misappropriation, 

>> and misuse of power and authority.  Go along to get along does not 

>> require courage and integrity, rather it only requires lip-service 

>> and inaction, to promote and advance the oppression and injustice.  

>> To say nothing and not act in the face of corruption and injustice 

>> speaks loudly in and of itself.  Silence speaks loudly that 

>> discrimination and injustice is acceptable and promotes the status 

>> quo, so as to not rock the injustice to simply get along.

>> 

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 

>> joe harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk

>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:04 PM

>> To: Mark Eagle; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List

>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

>> 

>> While I agree with you in sentiment Peckham is a total evil, slave 

>> shop and would not supply good paying jobs to PWD, or at least those 

>> with the most significant disabilities.

>> 

>> In fact the Peckham's in this state; the community rehab 

>> organizations are the ones who really run through MARO our VR 

>> agencies including being the fiduciary for the Statewide Rehab 

>> Council. Again they are the illegal tails wagging the dog.

>> 

>> As per BSBP and the entire BEP program though I totally agree with 

>> you and Terry. It is a fraud, and a farce and a massive documented 

>> misappropriation of VR funds.

>> 

>> I, for one want it shut down and for the funds to go in to core 

>> rehabilitation services here. And for the scofflaws in BSBP/LARA to 

>> go to jail for the massive theft of those VR dollars. which are right 

>> now fora large part going to non-blind, non-disabled vendors and 

>> hacks sucking at the

>> 

>> public trough and literally stealing stands from the blind.

>> 

>> Joe

>> 

>> 

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "Mark Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>

>> To: <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>; "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List"

>> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>

>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:38 AM

>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

>> 

>> 

>>>I am not a fan of peckham. But, if BSBP continues to place sighted 

>>>operators in facilities that are mandated under PA 260 for the blind 

>>>and we

>> 

>>>the blind don't fight for our rights to operate them. Then we 

>>>shouldn't hold our brothers and sister with other disabilities back from
a job.

>>> 

>>> The BEP has been corrupt for as long as I can remember. It has 

>>> discriminated against some great people. It has created an 

>>> environment where the blind fight amongst each other and not for 

>>> each other. BEP staff

>> 

>>> and operators have "used" their fellow blind "friends" to gain What 

>>> I ask.

>> 

>>> A broken system for future generations and few more pennies in their 

>>> pocket.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> ________________________________

>>> From: Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>

>>> To: 'joe harcz Comcast' <joeharcz at comcast.net>; 'NFB of Michigan 

>>> Internet Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>

>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:16 AM

>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Perhaps the payments are related to the future takeover of BEP by

>>> Peckham.

>>> Sounds like a great marriage in rehabilitation.  After all, as pointed

>>> out

>>> below both Peckham and BEP discriminate against blind persons in

>>> rehabilitation services, employment, and subminimum wage employment, as

>>> demonstrated by the current posted BEP employment opportunities, more

>>> than

>>> 10 percent of the entire BS4BP Business Enterprise Program, are

>>> subminimum

>>> wage, less than minum wage, for a required 50 hour business week, not

>>> including shopping weekly for the business.

>>> 

>>> Why not open up the BEP to persons with disabilities?  Peckham certainly

>>> cannot do any worse than BS4BP in serving persons with disabilities.  At

>>> least Peckham provides good supported employment srvices, job coaching

>>> for

>>> on-the-job training, retention of employment services, and support

>>> personnel

>>> that actually show up at, and meaningfully interact with clients and

>>> employers.  Peckham also provides necessary and appropriate equipment 

>>> and

>>> supports to their clients and employment-placed clients, except for 

>>> blind

>>> persons of record.  That is better than BS4BP BEP, who will not even

>>> invest

>>> in talking cash registers credit card readers, talking UPC readers for

>>> inventory control, and Braille note for doing business  successfully, as

>>> a

>>> blind business operator and their blind employees.  Yet BS4BP BEP 

>>> expects

>>> a

>>> printed signed and notarized inventory from their blind operators.  And

>>> there is no meaningful advocate, since the EOC is neutered and bought

>>> off.

>>> To Give Peckham the BEP perhaps will replace sighted vending facilities

>>> with

>>> persons with disabilities, and the necessary and appropriate supports 

>>> and

>>> equipment for business success.  Since BEP simply does not serve blind

>>> persons with meaningful employment.  I support the BEP expansion to 

>>> other

>>> persons with disabilities.  Perhaps we will see much needed support of

>>> our

>>> nation's disabled war veterans, rather than sighted family members,

>>> friends,

>>> and intimate relationships of agency staff and blind operators.  Just

>>> watch

>>> what the BEP future holds, especially after the November re-election of

>>> the

>>> Snyder administration.

>>> 

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe

>>> harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk

>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 10:14 AM

>>> To: Ed Rodgers BSBP Dir.

>>> Cc: Marlene Malloy MCRS Dir.; Sarah Gravetti silc mcrs mcil; MARK CODY

>>> mpas

>>> pair; Sue Luzenski BSBP Adm. Ass.; Lewis,Anil; trina edmondson mcrs dac;

>>> katie belknap bsbp; Christyne.Cavataio at ed.gov; Pemble,Mike (LARA);

>>> nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org; BRIAN SABOURIN; Elmer Cerano MPAS; MARK 

>>> MCWILLIAMS

>>> MPAS

>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] bsbp peckham questions and info

>>> 

>>> October 24 2010 BSBP Peckham Questions

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

>>> 

>>> 1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.

>>> 

>>> Mt. Morris, MI 48458

>>> 

>>> joeharcz at comcast.net

>>> 

>>> 810-516-5262

>>> 

>>> Edward F. Rodgers, IIDirector (Mich.) Bureau Services to Blind Persons

>>> 

>>> (Via e-mail)

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Dear Mr. Rodgers,

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I am writing you today to inquire specifically what the payments to

>>> Peckham

>>> Vocational Industries from BSBP (see ref. after signature line) were 

>>> for.

>>> It

>>> is a very simple question sir.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Moreover, I wish to inform you in case you didn't know it that Peckham

>>> has

>> 

>>> a

>>> track record documented in the public  domain of paying people with

>>> disabilities sub-minimum wages and employing them in segregated work

>>> settings. Moreover, again in documented fashion Peckham has 

>>> discriminated

>>> against blind people in its varius programs and services by not 

>>> supplying

>>> them with required reasonable accommodations and even has discriminatory

>>> hiring practices  against people who are blind.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Under Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 as amended one

>>> recipient

>>> of federal funds (BSBP)may not contract with a violator of 504 

>>> (Peckham).

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I've sent you statute and regulations in those regards in the past so

>>> you've

>>> been informed of obligations in these regards.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I thank you in advance for your prompt and accessible response to this

>>> inquiry.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Sincerely,

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Cc: RSA

>>> 

>>> Cc: NFB MI

>>> 

>>> Cc: MPAS/CAP

>>> 

>>> Cc: MCRS

>>> 

>>> Cc: MI SILC

>>> 