[nfbmi-talk] Student Job

Mon Sep 1 20:06:58 UTC 2014

This is not an internship position, as civil service clearly posts that
internship position is of the internship program and it is a non-paid
position.

The student assistant pRogram first requires that student assistant
applicants and candidates be enrolled in a high school, undergraduate,
master's, or professional degree.  Student assistant positions are paid, and
pay is based on the education and work experience of the appointed student.
Some student assistant position postings will list a preference for an
academic area or degree, or such a requirement.  Student assistant
employment is intended for a student to gain work experience, get a foot in
the door and foot up for possible career employment with an agency.

The Michigan civil service employment opportunities webpage always seems to
have postings for both student assistant and student internship positions in
various state agencies.  The application window is usually short upon
posting, as applicants are volumous and competition is vigorous, and it
helps if students know someone within government employment. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Fred
Wurtzel via nfbmi-talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:34 AM
To: 'joe harcz Comcast'; 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'
Cc: 'Marianne Dunn'; 'Michael Hudson'
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Student Job

Hi,

If this is an internship, I have no problem, in fact, it is a good way to
get interns paid for their time.  I wish it had been clearer.  They could
have just said it was for an internship.

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:14 AM
To: Lydia Anne Schuck; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Student Job

You've got it right on Lydia.

Their templates are clearly dated, and confusing.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lydia Anne Schuck via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Student Job

> It sounds to me as though they are offering an internship for a rehab 
> student, which I believe is required to finish the program.  This next bit

> is cut from the announcement.
>
> Enrollment in a Master's degree program in Blindness and Low Vision
> Studies, and completion of all coursework necessary to complete an 
> internship is
> required.
>
> I think they used their listing template poorly...should have said 
> Master's enrollment right in the beginning, instead of voc-tech or any 
> bachelor's degree.
>
> Lydia
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fred Wurtzel via nfbmi-talk <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: terrydeagle at yahoo.com, 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List' 
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: 'Marianne Dunn' <dunkaz at ameritech.net>, jonesl2 at michigan.gov, 'Michael

> Hudson' <mjh at msu.edu>
> Sent: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 09:59:02 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Student Job
>
> Hello,
>
> Terry, this is amazing!  It is 1 thing to hire a student assistant to do
> clerical work of answer phones, it is a far different thing to hire a
> student assistant with no required knowledge to teach newly blind persons
> the skills of blindness.  I cannot believe the BS4BP professional staff
> actually agrees with this concept.  It further portrays the complete
> disregard and dismissal of rehabilitation as an important service which
> makes a difference in people's lives.
>
> This is amazing.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Terry
> D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:02 AM
> To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Student Job
>
> Here is another BS4BP job for the sighted family member, friend, or lover 
> of
> a BS4BP,  LARA, or governor's office employee, given past practice of 
> hiring
> within civil service.
>
>
>
>
>
> STATE OF MICHIGAN
>
> Job Opportunities
>
> Job #:  6401-14-BSBP-58-POST
>
> Job Title:  Student Assistant / Intern - GR Regional
>
> Closing Date/Time:  Fri. 08/29/14 5:00 PM Eastern Time
>
> Salary:  $15.06 / Hour
>
> Job Type:  Non Career
>
> Bargaining Unit:  UNITED AUTO WORKERS (UAW)
>
> Location:  Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> Department:  Licensing and Regulatory Affairs - LARA
>
> Job Description
>
> This position will work directly with blind rehabilitation instructors in
> the West
>
> Region.
>
> The essential teaching responsibilities will be assisting with conducting
> blind rehabilitation
>
> teaching assessments and teaching skills of blindness to BSBP consumers in
> both Vocational
>
> Rehabilitation and the Independent Living programs.
>
> Position Description
>
> Required Education and Experience:
>
> Education
>
> Current enrollment in vocational or technical school, or post-secondary
> educational
>
> institution.
>
> Experience
>
> No specific type or amount is required.
>
> Additional Requirements and Information:
>
> Enrollment in a Master's degree program in Blindiness and Low Vision
> Studies, and
>
> completion of all coursework necessary to complete an internship is
> required.
>
> The student must provide evidence of enrollment or acceptance to an
> educational institution.
>
> View the job specification at:
>
> http://www.michigan.gov/documents/StudentAssistant_13049_7.pdf
>
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