[nfbmi-talk] Fw: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services Director
Fred Wurtzel
f.wurtzel at att.net
Sun Apr 5 04:24:29 UTC 2015
Hi,
My recollection is that cases are kept for 5 years and then destroyed.
Based on this, it is curious if there is a case or what is in there.
Warmest Regards,
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pauline
Smith via nfbmi-talk
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:59 PM
To: terrydeagle at yahoo.com; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List; 'David
Robinson'
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services
Director
Just curious. Can a p]son obtain his/her case file? if so, how does one go
about doing this. Can this be done even the case has been officially closed
for a number years?
"Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>This is NOT incompetence. This is pure unadulterated corruption! Why
>don't the overpaid lazy VR staff get off their lazy butts and visit
>consumers to obtain a signature on a PRINT DOCUMENT, if the BS 4 BP
>will not accept an electronic signature e-mailed from the consumers e-mail
address?
>
>This is nothing new to just Joe, as the same was done to me as a member
>of NFB. Nothing will be done about the fraud, corruption, stealing of
>VR funds being used for INELIGIBLE SIGHTED persons--family, friends,
>lovers and lovers of lovers, of BS4BP staff, because the NFB of
>Michigan or NFB National doesn't have the courage or integrity anymore
>to take the ACTION that is needed to clean-up the agency and put the
>thieves out of their jobs and in prison making 10 cents an hour making
>license plates, for their SIGHTED friends with a driver's license,
>which makes their friends qualified to apply for state employment!
>
>Go-Along-To-Get-Along has miserably failed, and perhaps Keven Worley,
>our leadership weekend national representative, is correct in his
>opinion, that the answer is for blind persons to move out of Michigan!
>Now that is real NFB spirit and leadership!
>
>That strategy and Go-Along-To-Get-Along is NOT THE NFB in which I grew up.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>David Robinson via nfbmi-talk
>Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 11:50 AM
>To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services
>Director
>
>If anyone has experienced similar behavior from BSBP, please let the
>NFB of Michigan know of your issues.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: joe harcz Comcast
>To: Christine Boone
>Cc: David Robinson NFB MI ; BRIAN SABOURIN
>Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 3:23 PM
>Subject: Fw: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services Director
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: joe harcz Comcast
>To: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
>Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services Director
>
>
>This is absolutely cuckoo!
>
>One I had no advocate at this so-called hearing.
>Two, the file indicated was not a scanning error and all know it. The
>dates and personnel were clearly identified and have been forwarded to
>other parties including RSA. And as I pointed out in just one document
>dated
>9-11-14 that Ms. Angela Mason was on it as counselor and stated "based
>upon our phone call today" or words to that effect. If you wingnuts
>wish to contend that this was a simple scanning error then explain this:
>Ms. Mason didn't work for the agency in October of 2013 as you suggest
>here and I've never talked to this person in my life, ever. And that
>goes to the false entry as well as others I discussed with Jones.
>
>
>Three, another outright lie is the contention that a paper agreement
>was sent to me. That is an outright and utter lie.
>
>Four, there are other fraudulent entries which I brought up.
>
>Five, my advocates haven't received said file yet in their most
>effective format.
>Six, this is a pattern and practice of total incompentancy by BSBP as
>well as a denial of anything remotely close to due process.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
> To: joe harcz Comcast (joeharcz at comcast.net)
> Cc: Rodgers, Edward (LARA) ; Luzenski, Sue (LARA) ; Pemble, Mike
>(LARA) ; Belknap, Katie (LARA) ; Jones, Leamon (LARA) ; Gaston,
>Diamalyn (LARA) ; White, Elizabeth (LARA) ; Wilson, Debbie (LARA) ;
>Marshall, Phyllis (LARA)
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 3:03 PM
> Subject: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services Director
>
>
> April 3, 2015 (via Email & U.S. Mail, prepaid on this date)
>
>
>
> Mr. Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>
> 1365 East Mount Morris Road
>
> Mount Morris, MI 48485
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Harcz, Jr.:
>
>
>
> After a review of your case file, the four issues that are inherent
>within your communication regarding the following:
>
>
>
> . Incorrect or fraudulent information in your case file.
>
> . Notes and materials missing from your file.
>
> . Failure to provide services.
>
> . Premature closure of your file.
>
>
>
> Per our phone discussion on March 19, 2015, you stated that your case
>file had fraudulent information in it and materials were missing. In
>reviewing the information that you indicated was fraudulent regarding
>the case entry on 9/11/14, it is the result of scanning the document
>into your case file on that date, thus being automatically dated by the
>system. Further review of those entries reflected the dates that they
>were entered into the case file
>(10/08/13 and 10/31/13).
>
>
>
> As a further review, I did not find any materials missing from your
>file; although, without examples from you it would be difficult to
>verify missing materials from your file. In our conversation, you did
>not identify any documents or materials specifically that were missing from
your file.
>
>
>
> The Bureau representative met with you and discussed your interest in
>receiving services. There were specific documents that needed your
>
>
>
> Review - P. J. Harcz, Jr.
>
> Page 2
>
> April 3, 2015
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> signature in order to provide services. An electronic copy of the
>application was emailed to you and a paper copy was mailed to you for
>your signature.
>
> In order for an individual to receive vocational rehabilitation
>services, a signed application must be obtained.
>
>
>
> The Bureau was not able to assist you with your chosen vocational
>goal because the signed application that was requested by the Bureau
>was never received. The case file indicates that ample time was given
>to you in order to work with the staff to develop your chosen
>objective. However, no activities had taken place toward the goal that
>you chose; therefore, your case was closed January 03, 2014.
>
>
>
> If you are not in agreement with this decision, you may contact the
>Client Assistance Program at 1-800-288-5923 or request an
>Administrative Review by contacting BSBP's Hearing Coordinator, Carla
>Haynes at 517-373-2062 or 1-800-292-4200.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Mr. Leamon Jones
>
> Consumer Services Director
>
>
>
> LJ/dg
>
>
>
> cc: Debbie Wilson
>
> Elizabeth White
>
> Carla Haynes
>
> Ed Rodgers
>
>
>
>
>
> Carla Miller Haynes
>
> LARA Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (BSBP)
>
> 201 N. Washington Square, 2nd Floor
>
> P.O. Box 30652
>
> Lansing, MI 48909
>
> Telephone: 517-373-2063 or Toll-Free 1-800-292-4200
>
> Fax: 517-335-5140
>
>
>
> www.michigan.gov/bsbp
>
>
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