[nfbmi-talk] Fw: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services Director

Fred Wurtzel f.wurtzel at att.net
Sun Apr 5 04:24:29 UTC 2015


Hi,

My recollection is that cases are kept for 5 years and then destroyed.
Based on this, it is curious if there is a case or what is in there.

Warmest Regards,

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pauline
Smith via nfbmi-talk
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:59 PM
To: terrydeagle at yahoo.com; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List; 'David
Robinson'
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services
Director

Just curious. Can a p]son obtain his/her case file? if so, how does one go
about doing this. Can this be done even the case has been officially closed
for a number years?



"Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>This is NOT incompetence.  This is pure unadulterated corruption!  Why 
>don't the overpaid lazy VR staff get off their lazy butts and visit 
>consumers to obtain a signature on a PRINT DOCUMENT, if the BS 4 BP 
>will not accept an electronic signature e-mailed from the consumers e-mail
address?
>
>This is nothing new to just Joe, as the same was done to me as a member 
>of NFB.  Nothing will be done about the fraud, corruption, stealing of 
>VR funds being used for INELIGIBLE SIGHTED persons--family, friends, 
>lovers and lovers of lovers, of BS4BP staff, because the NFB of 
>Michigan or NFB National doesn't have the courage or integrity anymore 
>to take the ACTION that is needed to clean-up the agency and put the 
>thieves out of their jobs and in prison making 10 cents an hour making 
>license plates, for their SIGHTED friends with a driver's license, 
>which makes their friends qualified to apply for state employment!
>
>Go-Along-To-Get-Along has miserably failed, and perhaps Keven Worley, 
>our leadership weekend national representative, is correct in his 
>opinion, that the answer is for blind persons to move out of Michigan!  
>Now that is real NFB spirit and leadership!
>
>That strategy and Go-Along-To-Get-Along is NOT THE NFB in which I grew up.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>David Robinson via nfbmi-talk
>Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 11:50 AM
>To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services 
>Director
>
>If anyone has experienced similar behavior from BSBP, please let the 
>NFB of Michigan know of your issues.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: joe harcz Comcast
>To: Christine Boone
>Cc: David Robinson NFB MI ; BRIAN SABOURIN
>Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 3:23 PM
>Subject: Fw: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services Director
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: joe harcz Comcast
>To: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
>Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services Director
>
>
>This is absolutely cuckoo!
>
>One I had no advocate at this so-called hearing.
>Two, the file indicated was not a scanning error and all know it. The 
>dates and personnel were clearly identified and have been forwarded to 
>other parties including RSA. And as I pointed out in just one document 
>dated
>9-11-14 that Ms. Angela Mason was on it as counselor and stated "based 
>upon our phone call today" or words to that effect. If you wingnuts 
>wish to contend that this was a simple scanning error then explain this:
>Ms. Mason didn't work for the agency in October of 2013  as you suggest 
>here and I've never talked to this person in my life, ever. And that 
>goes to the false entry as well as others I discussed with Jones.
>
>
>Three, another outright lie is the contention that a paper agreement 
>was sent to me. That is an outright and utter lie.
>
>Four, there are other fraudulent entries which I brought up.
>
>Five, my advocates haven't received said file yet in their most 
>effective format.
>Six, this is a pattern and practice  of total incompentancy by BSBP as 
>well as a denial of anything remotely close to due process.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
>  To: joe harcz Comcast (joeharcz at comcast.net)
>  Cc: Rodgers, Edward (LARA) ; Luzenski, Sue (LARA) ; Pemble, Mike 
>(LARA) ; Belknap, Katie (LARA) ; Jones, Leamon (LARA) ; Gaston, 
>Diamalyn (LARA) ; White, Elizabeth (LARA) ; Wilson, Debbie (LARA) ; 
>Marshall, Phyllis (LARA)
>  Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 3:03 PM
>  Subject: Review Letter from BSBP Consumer Services Director
>
>
>  April 3, 2015 (via Email & U.S. Mail, prepaid on this date)
>
>   
>
>  Mr. Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>
>  1365 East Mount Morris Road
>
>  Mount Morris, MI  48485
>
>   
>
>  Dear Mr. Harcz, Jr.:
>
>   
>
>  After a review of your case file, the four issues that are inherent 
>within your communication regarding the following:
>
>   
>
>  .        Incorrect or fraudulent information in your case file.
>
>  .        Notes and materials missing from your file.
>
>  .        Failure to provide services.
>
>  .        Premature closure of your file.
>
>   
>
>  Per our phone discussion on March 19, 2015, you stated that your case 
>file had fraudulent information in it and materials were missing.  In 
>reviewing the information that you indicated was fraudulent regarding 
>the case entry on 9/11/14, it is the result of scanning the document 
>into your case file on that date, thus being automatically dated by the 
>system.  Further review of those entries reflected the dates that they 
>were entered into the case file
>(10/08/13 and 10/31/13).
>
>   
>
>  As a further review, I did not find any materials missing from your 
>file; although, without examples from you it would be difficult to 
>verify missing materials from your file.  In our conversation, you did 
>not identify any documents or materials specifically that were missing from
your file.
>
>   
>
>  The Bureau representative met with you and discussed your interest in 
>receiving services.  There were specific documents that needed your
>
>   
>
>  Review - P. J. Harcz, Jr.
>
>  Page 2
>
>  April 3, 2015
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>  signature in order to provide services.  An electronic copy of the 
>application was emailed to you and a paper copy was mailed to you for 
>your signature.
>
>  In order for an individual to receive vocational rehabilitation 
>services, a signed application must be obtained.
>
>   
>
>  The Bureau was not able to assist you with your chosen vocational 
>goal because the signed application that was requested by the Bureau 
>was never received. The case file indicates that ample time was given 
>to you in order to work with the staff to develop your chosen 
>objective. However, no activities had taken place toward the goal that 
>you chose; therefore, your case was closed January 03, 2014.
>
>   
>
>  If you are not in agreement with this decision, you may contact the 
>Client Assistance Program at 1-800-288-5923 or request an 
>Administrative Review by contacting BSBP's Hearing Coordinator, Carla 
>Haynes at 517-373-2062 or 1-800-292-4200.
>
>   
>
>  Sincerely,
>
>   
>
>  Mr. Leamon Jones
>
>  Consumer Services Director
>
>   
>
>  LJ/dg
>
>   
>
>  cc: Debbie Wilson
>
>        Elizabeth White
>
>        Carla Haynes
>
>        Ed Rodgers
>
>   
>
>   
>
>  Carla Miller Haynes
>
>  LARA Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (BSBP)
>
>  201 N. Washington Square, 2nd Floor
>
>  P.O. Box 30652
>
>  Lansing, MI  48909
>
>  Telephone:  517-373-2063 or Toll-Free 1-800-292-4200
>
>  Fax:  517-335-5140
>
>   
>
>  www.michigan.gov/bsbp
>
>   
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