[nfbmi-talk] Fw: never responded to request for ada compliance

Wed Mar 9 20:16:25 UTC 2016

Haley you are so right.  How sad it is that, when it comes to government entities, we live in a world where being kind, polite and giving other people the benefit of the doubt will get you…nowhere.  So we get a little more forceful and we will be accused of being radicle, rude and extreme.  In the olden days the word was militant, but the American education system being what it is, no one knows what that word means any more.  I wish I could Laugh Out Loud but the situation is too serious and too many people, especially children, are getting hurt.  

Kind regards and hugs to all of you Michiganders.  I miss you guys.  You are really the best in more ways than I can count!  I miss my friends inside of the BSBP too.  I have been accused of some treacherous things by small people in that arena as well, but there are still some pretty awesome folks on the Training Center staff whose friendship means a great deal to me.  Suffice it to say that people who want to do harm to a person can find all sorts of ways to do that. They can even generate email messages that look like they came from you, when you did not write them and they do not exist in your own computer.  

OK, I am done now.  Thanks for listening.  

Fondly, 

CB  
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Haley Dare via nfbmi-talk <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> It's a thankless job, but I wanted to say "Thank You" to Joe for continuing to keep the issues in front of the SOM.  As a parent who has been fighting "kindly" and "respectfully" for services that never seem to be forthcoming from the schools, I'm beginning to think that trying to be understanding of its (the school's) position and not complaining, is getting me absolutely nowhere.  Perhaps its time to be aggressive, bitchy (sorry, but that's the only word I can think of right now) and rotten.  It is not in my nature at all, but I am sick of seeing my son suffer and nobody seems to give a crap.  He needs help NOW, under the IDEA, not if/when he reaches the definition of blindness under Michigan Administrative Law.  
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>    On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 10:27 AM, David Robinson via nfbmi-talk <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> As demonstrated so often by State government. Lack of response signals that they are liers or they don't view disabled citizens as equal  to themselves and are due no respect. 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: joe harcz Comcast 
> To: Ellis, Sharon (DTMB) 
> Cc: Robin Jones ; Peter Berg ; DANIEL COOPER ; Sally Conway USDOJ ; Daniel Levy ; Elmer Cerano MPAS ; MARK MCWILLIAMS MPAS ; MARK CODY mpas pair 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:36 AM
> Subject: never responded to request for ada compliance
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> A failure to respond is a violation of the ADA in and of itself!
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: joe harcz Comcast 
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> To: Ellis, Sharon (DTMB) 
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> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:40 AM
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> Subject: Re: answering your questions
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> When in this lifetime will you and other state agents bring the State of Michigan, and all of it's activities in to full compliance with the ADA and Section 504?
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> Moreover, this is a great time to ask you this, given this is the25th anniversary of the ADA:
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> --Please send me your complete and most recent ADA compliance plan with all meeting minutes, with all findings of all physical barriers, and with all of its identification of same in state owned and leased buildings along with required schedules for full barrier removal; and send me in conjunction with all of this the required people with disabilities  or organizations who engaged in the development and implementation of that "transition plan"... which, by the way was to have been conducted as of January 26, 1992  with all barriers removed by July 26, 1995.
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> -In addition I am requesting right here and now a complete report with copious details related to your ADA self-evaluation, and relative to the web site and documents access  reference in press coverage more than one year ago and I am requesting the entire state of Michigan's policies, procedures, and practices for remitting information in alternate formats for people such as myself who are legally blind or visually impaired as was required January 26, 1992 under Title II of the ADA alone and more than fourty years ago under the Rehab  Act.
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> Moreover as a legally blind person any correspondence must be made forthrightly and in accessible format and without surcharge. I'll make it easy send me any responses via simple Word documents or plain text enclosures to my e-mail address here:
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> Joeharcz at comcast.net
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> Complete directory information here:
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> Paul Joseph Harcz,Jr.
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> 1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
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> Mt. Morris, Mi 48458
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> joeharcz at comcast.net
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> Phone: 810-516-5262 
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> Sincerely,
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> Joe
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: Ellis, Sharon (DTMB) 
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> To: joeharcz at comcast.net 
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> Cc: Hoffman, Joel (DTMB) 
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> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:41 PM
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> Subject: answering your questions
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> Wed 9/18/2013 5:05 PM
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> I thought you mame were the or, ratther are the State of Michigan ADA Coordinator?
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> Sorry I've only found these things through press reports and other "feelers". Perhaps Ive been misinformed?
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> Wed 9/18/2013 5:21 PM
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> I'm sorry I thought from the bottom of this memo that you were and are the so called state of Michigan adA  compliance officer. Am I mis-informed about this highgly imopiortantt civil rights position that is to ensure amonst other things the State of Michigan's compliance or lack thereof of this seminal civil rights law.
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> Wed 9/18/2013 5:35 PM
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> Dear Ms. Ellis,
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> Again I am very confused here, but I'm often confused about  the mechinizations of the strange workings of this State of Michigan. But clearly you are the State of Michigan's "ADA Compliance Officer" or so this memo claims and yet you were engaged in other business today and in this very memo you referred me to another person who, by the way along with the entire Michigan apparatus has in demonstra ble fashion violated the ADA.Sorry I don't get it here.t
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> Mr. Harcz:
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> As you can see, I am answering all three of your e-mails to me in this one.
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> You are correct.  My title is State ADA Compliance Director.  As such, it is one of my job responsibilities to ensure your issues are addressed appropriately.  In my first note to you, I explained that as a member of the public with issues with the Department of Technology, Management and Budget, your concerns are most appropriately addressed by DTMB’s ADA Coordinator, Mr. Joel Hoffman, whose contact information I provided you.
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> Your understanding of the way to handle your concerns – advising Mr. Hoffman of them - is correct.
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> One correction, though: as you can see below, my position is located in the DTMB, not the Department of Civil Rights.
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> Sincerely,
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> Sharon Alston Ellis, J.D.
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> State ADA Compliance Director
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> Michigan Dept. of Technology, Management & Budget
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> Direct: 517.241.1217
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> Cell: 517.515.8589
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> Fax: 517.241.5428
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> elliss1 at michigan.gov
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