[Nfbmo] Fw: I-Phone could take the win out of KNFB Reader.

Mon Jul 5 20:59:50 UTC 2010

Fellow Federationists

I think it would be helpful to keep in mind that the blind have a very small 
market.  It costs a lot to produce products for the blind because we have 
such small numbers.

I remember that the speech plus calculator sold for $400.00.  My mother 
loaned me the money to purchase it because I was a student and could not 
afford it:  I was thrilled to get it because I now had a calculator that I 
could use.
Please go back down memory lane to the Braille N Speak which cost $1,500. 
Wasn't it wonderful to have a notetaker which was so much faster than the 
slate and stylus.

The first KNFB reader cost $3,000 which was a tremendous benefit to those 
blind people who could afford it.

It is sometimes necessary to purchase products when they come out even 
though upgrades come out later which cost less.

I hope that the i phone or other products will improve what we had before 
and that they would cost less enabling more blind people to purchase them. 
I think we were blessed that Dean Blazie and Ray Kurzweil were trailblazers 
who produced wonderful products to benefit the blind even though these 
products cost a great deal of money. Thank you for your consideration of my 
thoughts.

Cordially,

James Moynihan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moynihan" <jamesmoynihan at kc.rr.com>
To: "James Moynihan" <cubanlandlord at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: Fw: [Nfbmo] I-Phone could take the win out of KNFB Reader.

> fyi
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> Love,
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> Mom and Dad
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eugene Coulter" <escoulter at centurytel.net>
> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] I-Phone could take the win out of KNFB Reader.
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>>I could not agree more!
>> Where we would be without the  first reader that came out in 1977 and we
>> must recognize that it was the far thinking of the NFB and Ray Kurzweil 
>> that
>> made this possible. No doubt that at some point in time these 
>> advancements
>> would have been made anyway but I am confident that the work done over 
>> the
>> last 33 years by us and Mr. Kurzweil greatly moved the process along to
>> where Apple and others have a road map to make dreams progress even 
>> further.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Shelia Wright" <sbwright95 at att.net>
>> To: "'NFB of Missouri Mailing List'" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] I-Phone could take the win out of KNFB Reader.
>>
>>
>>>I am all for options and for affordability. If the Apple's OCR program is
>>> comparable or even better than the KNFB Reader that is great. However, 
>>> the
>>> fact that the NFB and Kurzweill  has developed the technology through 
>>> many
>>> years of work, has in and of itself led to making it possible.
>>>
>>> The tone of the posts that the KNFB Reader is a rip off is a bit niave 
>>> and
>>> annoying given the years of work I have witnessed. Bravo for the work
>>> Apple
>>> is doing; Bravo that technology is advancing and becoming more 
>>> affordable;
>>> Bravo to the pioneers who led the way!
>>>
>>> Shelia Wright
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     --Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Bryan Schulz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:25 AM
>>> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] I-Phone could take the win out of KNFB Reader.
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> any chance these phones have an option for not having to pay 30-60 bucks 
>>> a
>>> month?
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Fred Olver" <goodfolks at charter.net>
>>> To: <Blindad at babel-fish.us>; <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: <msb-alumni at googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:17 AM
>>> Subject: [Nfbmo] I-Phone could take the win out of KNFB Reader.
>>>
>>>
>>>> the I phone will have an OCR  app soon.  thus no need to pay two grand
>>>> for
>>>
>>>> the kurzweil reader , phone , and talks or moble speak.   the 3 g as 
>>>> well
>>>> as the new 4g phone will work with  this OCR software. and the I phone
>>>> has
>>>
>>>> it's own speech software which is FREE. So  go and listen to the file
>>>> below and see for yourself.
>>>>
>>>> SayText is an app designed especially for the visually impaired and by
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> way, it's free! In a few words to describe it's use, you need to place
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> iPhone on the center of a document. There's a big button for starting 
>>>> the
>>>> tool, tap it. ?Slowly elevate the i Phohne upwards from the document
>>>> until
>>>
>>>> you hear a beep sound - this indicates, that the document is now fully 
>>>> in
>>>> frame and the camera will shoot automatically, when the picture is 
>>>> stable
>>>> / focused. ?Now only thing you have to do, is to wait for a few 
>>>> seconds.
>>>> (You can tap the screen to hear the OCR progress, e.g. OCR 35%). ?When
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> OCR is ready you can start the voiceover to read the document out loud.
>>>> The app should come to Appstore in a week or so. There is a website for
>>>> SayText:
>>>> http://www.docscannerapp.com/saytext/
>>>>
>>>> There's also a video, where Mr. Heikki Ekola, a totally blind person 
>>>> uses
>>>> it. He's representing the Finnish Federation of the Visually Impaired -
>>>> You can find the video here:
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlWJF27IdX4
>>>>
>>>> This video is also at the SayText homepage.
>>>> http://www.docscannerapp.com/saytext/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fred Olver
>>>>
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