[Nfbmo] subject change to church...

nell orlowski dreami.eyes at gmail.com
Fri Oct 28 01:08:51 UTC 2011


I also think that if we have a problem that it should be handled off list.
Thanks,
Janelle

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Todd Orlowski
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:17 PM
To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] subject change to church...

I am just putting in my two scents I know that as humans will will have have
disagreements. I have seen this on the nadgu topic list. I do understand
that we all can have disagreements or mis understanding at times. But can we
please email each other pricately. I get hundreds of emails daily and I'd
rather not have private disagreements going across the message list. This is
what we had to do with the nadgu board list.  

Thank you
Warmly
todd Orlowski 
On Oct 27, 2011, at 12:00 PM, fred olver wrote:

> I didn't go to church for a long time, either, until I figured out that I 
> was the one who had to offer to put the bulletin in to an accessible
format, 
> until I volunteered to "participate" in anything I could to show that I
was 
> interested.
> 
> Fred Olver
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at kc.rr.com>
> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] What would you do?
> 
> 
>> there you go again
>> I'm not blaming anyone, I'll have you know that people here in Kansas
City 
>> have made remarks about the Springfield chapter president, and as far as 
>> me talking about churches.
>> I was saying that a blind pastor said that 95% us don't go to church, I 
>> said my self that I don't know if the numbers are really that high, and I

>> also said that that was my experience, and that I was not trying to tell 
>> people not to go to church, and then you guys jump all over me
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary Wunder" <GWunder at earthlink.net>
>> To: "'NFB of Missouri Mailing List'" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] What would you do?
>> 
>> 
>>> Dewey, when you were in Springfield I tried to get you to join. I told 
>>> you
>>> how much we need people and you had an excuse about people not treating 
>>> you
>>> right. You indicted 95% of all churches as anti-blind and now you say 
>>> Debbie
>>> is causing you to leave. You have never been. You want to snipe from the
>>> sidelines and never, so far as I have observed, did anything except to 
>>> lift
>>> a finger to your keyboard to start an argument. I do not know the city 
>>> you
>>> live in now, but we could have used you desperately in Springfield and 
>>> there
>>> was always a reason you would not commit. I guess now you have one and
>>> someone to blame it on. I'm sorry about that. We need you and you need 
>>> us,
>>> but you can't expect people to sit passively by as you talk about their
>>> churches in such a demeaning way. I hope you do something constructive 
>>> for
>>> the blind in your new city. We want to be your friend, and from your
>>> appearance on the list I believe you want to be ours. Just don't throw a
>>> stone and be surprised if some object and say it is juvenile to throw 
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Dewey Bradley
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:06 AM
>>> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] What would you do?
>>> 
>>> I was talking about the blind people on this list as well, they jump all
>>> over me, that is why I am going to leave all the blind groups, some 
>>> things
>>> have been said in the past, and so people remember my name, and are
going 
>>> to
>>> 
>>> do that, so I get the pointe.
>>> I just moved to a new city and whent to a chapter meeting a week ago,
but
>>> something Debby said has turned me off for good.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <DanFlasar at aol.com>
>>> To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] What would you do?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I agree - I have enough things to deal  with without having to address 
>>>> the
>>>> neuroses of random people at bus stops or  waiting in line.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a message dated 10/27/2011 12:32:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>> dewey.bradley at kc.rr.com writes:
>>>> 
>>>> Well he  didn't think I heard him, he was an older guy, so something
has
>>>> up
>>>> set him  I guess, who knows, but if you read the other posts from this
>>>> list,
>>>> I'm  the only one who has ever gotten that, I'm angry
>>>> But I don't bother with  people like that, its a waste of my time
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <DanFlasar at aol.com>
>>>> To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent:  Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:13 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] What would you  do?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Dewey,
>>>>> Sounds like that guy at the bus stop felt  inferior in the presence of
>>>>> someone he felt had a lot more courage  than he does.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a message  dated 10/26/2011 11:37:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>> dewey.bradley at kc.rr.com writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had a guy  at the bus  stop the other day telling someone that if he
>>>> were
>>>>> blind he   would kill him self, but that is just me being angry I 
>>>>> guess.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----  Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From:  <DanFlasar at aol.com>
>>>>> To:  <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 7:27  PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo]  What would you do?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are always  a few  fringey people in every  group.  Generally,
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>  not
>>>>>> good to elect, appoint or anoint them, much  less  generalize  from
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> poor behavior to the rest of the  group.
>>>>>>  And anyone who would pray for you to get  your  sight back  and call
>>>> you
>>>>>> evil if you don't needs  to pray to lift the  arrogance  from their
>>>>>> soul.
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In a message dated  10/26/2011 5:51:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>>>  mdsmith25 at ktis.net writes:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've run  across a few  people  who believe that if I just pray
enough
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> blindness  will be  cured, but none that thought my blindness was
>>>> caused
>>>>>> because I  was  evil.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Melissa Smith
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/26/2011  5:02 PM, Gail  Bryant  wrote:
>>>>>>> Personally, I go to a wonderful   church which has supported me  in
>>>> every
>>>>>> way
>>>>>>> possible.  When I've had surgery, the helped me with meals  and
>>>> whatever
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> needed.  When Ed died, they prayed  with me, cried   with me,
laughed
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> and more.   Never have  they called  me  evil. I don't know where
Mr.
>>>>>> Bradley
>>>>>>> gets  his figures, but perhaps  the reason he chooses not to go to
>>>>> church
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> out of anger and    bitterness
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gail Bryant
>>>>>>> Columbia Braille  Teaching  Services L.L.C.
>>>>>>> 1212  London Drive
>>>>>>> Columbia, MO   65203-2012
>>>>>>> Phone: (573)817-5993
>>>>>>> Cell:  (573)268-4962
>>>>>>>   gbryant at socket.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>>>>>> From:  nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Debbie  Wunder
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:05  PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB  of Missouri Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] What    would you do?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You are being ridiculous! Where  do you  get your  facts?
>>>>>>> This trivia night issue has  nothing to do  with god, or opinions
of
>>>> the
>>>>>>> blind.
>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From:  "Dewey   Bradley"<dewey.bradley at kc.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB of  Missouri   Mailing List"<nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October  26,  2011 9:39 AM
>>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [Nfbmo] What would you    do?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wasn't going to  reply to this,  but I have to  say this
>>>>>>>> its been  my experience that  churches and church groups do  this,
>>>> they
>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> not want  anyone with a disability  around, they just  want to tell

>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> if we pray harder we will have are  sight   back, and that we are
>>>>>>>> evil,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> is why  we  are blind.
>>>>>>>> They say that 95% of us don't go  to church, I  don't know if the
>>>>>>>> numbers
>>>>>>>> are that high, but  this is  why.
>>>>>>>> Most people  that go to church and call  them  selves Christians
are
>>>>>>>> judgmental   like  that.
>>>>>>>> I'm not saying don't go to church, nor am  I trying  to  get a 
>>>>>>>> lintch
>>>>>>>> mob
>>>>>>>> after me, I'm just saying that is  what  I've  noticed, that is why

>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> go, every church I have seen do not  want  blind people  around.
>>>>>>>> I'm not saying that is the case  here,  but it  could be
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message   -----
>>>>>>>> From:  "MATTHEW    SIEVERT"<msievert at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFB of   Missouri  Mailing List"<nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent:  Wednesday, October 26,  2011 7:33 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo]  What would you   do?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Group,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope  you are all   well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What I have observed is that  many   times people will want to 
>>>>>>>> "rebel"
>>>>>>>> instead  of
>>>>>>>> remedy a  situation through other  means.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Equality for all  will  not take place over a period of one year or
>>>>> even
>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>> years, but  you can lay the  foundation  that other's can build
>>>>>>>> upon.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Representing a group in a  negative light will  not win over
>>>>> supporters.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> bring attention  to   the issue, but you want people understand,
not
>>>>>>>>  simply
>>>>>>>> notice
>>>>>>>> through a  negative  act.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Some day we   will have a  blind/visually impaired astronaut. Until
>>>> that
>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> we  as
>>>>>>>> the NFB should  do what we can to build upon  our   organization's
>>>>>>>> achievements and
>>>>>>>>  represent our disabled  community in a positive   light.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Equality  at   trivia night's should be obtained, but like all
>>>>> challenges,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>  will
>>>>>>>> take time and a calm   intellect.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Matt    Sievert
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: fred    olver<goodfolks at charter.net>
>>>>>>>> To: NFB of  Missouri  Mailing  List<nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, October  26, 2011 7:41:12  AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] What would you   do?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   Gary,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have read your comments  several times  and  perhapse even lost 
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>> sleep
>>>>>>>> over what I  consider to be an  afrontery  to me and others who 
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>> wish
>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>> participate in an  activity alongside individuals  who  are not
>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> their    vision.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Let me say first of all that a  year  ago I  confronted this 
>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> explained to the  individuals in  charge  that I felt wronged 
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>> half
>>>>>>  of
>>>>>>>> the questions were  undeciferable by myself.  Okay,  they didn't 
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> going to be   there. This year, however nearly a third of the
>>>> questions
>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> again undeciferable  by a blind person. It is my  feeling that if 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> charge  know that  individuals will be  participating who are
unable
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> participate in a significant  number of  questions  related to the
>>>>>>>> activity
>>>>>>>> that they not  allow  those questions.  To me, the reasons ought to

>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>  very
>>>>>>>> obvious. If  you alienate a significant number  of  individuals you
>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> them to come back next  year. If you  knowingly allow questions to 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>> a
>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>> of  an activity which you know will exclude individuals  from
>>>>>> participating
>>>>>>>> then you are wrong to  include them. If for  example I  only
provide
>>>>>> agenda's
>>>>>>>> in Braille to  individuals who don't  read  Braille then I am wrong

>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>> so,
>>>>>>>> because I have ignored  their   needs.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bottom line,  I'm feeling ignored. Next  year, I  think I'll find
>>>> seven
>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> individuals  who can not make  use of  visual questions and attend 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>  same
>>>>>>>> fundraiser and practice a bit  of civil   disobedience.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Fred   Olver
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>> From:  "Gary   Wunder"<GWunder at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "'NFB of   Missouri Mailing  List'"<nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 25, 2011  5:53 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo]  What would you   do?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi  Fred and the folks who have  commented here. Please allow me
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> interject
>>>>>>>>>  another  perspective. I find this troublesome philosophically. 
>>>>>>>>> When
>>>> I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> have access and am denied it  because someone doesn't  want  to go

>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> trouble of making their software  accessible,  I'm  up in arms. 
>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>  use
>>>>>>>>> artificial barriers  such as possessing  a  driver's license when
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> mean is  that  an employee has to get around, I'm bothered. When
>>>> they
>>>>>> say   I
>>>>>>>>> have to be able to  visually read print to take a job and  I  have

>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do  it,  I'm  outraged.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How is  the  issue changed when we  know of no way to make a 
>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>> 100
>>>>>>>>> percent accessible? I  don't want to  deprive  anyone of the
beauty
>>>>> found
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> paintings  or  photography simply because  I can't observe them. I
>>>>>>>>>   understand
>>>>>>>>> there are some cartoons that are so  torturous  to  explain that
by
>>>> the
>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> one finishes  putting them into words,   they are no longer 
>>>>>>>>> funny.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mental challenges   may be  audible, visual, or they might even
>>>> involve
>>>>>>>>>  other
>>>>>>>>> senses such as taste or smell. If we look hard  enough,  we'll 
>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>  who
>>>>>>>>> have problems with one  or more of these. So,  in  the areas where

>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> have  true   alternatives, should our request be that the thing we
>>>>> cannot
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> stricken from the activity?  Would we  have been wrong to run a 
>>>>>>>>> clip
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>  Henry
>>>>>>>>> Kissinger saying "Piece is at hand,"  and  asking the group to
>>>>>>>>> identify
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> man or what he  was talking about or the year  when he made  the
>>>>>> utterance?
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> blind are at something  of a   disadvantage because we cannot see
>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>  The
>>>>>>>>> deaf
>>>>>>>>> are at a  disadvantage  because they cannot hear him. The  young 
>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>> well
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> a  disadvantage because   they weren't around when he made 
>>>>>>>>> headlines
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>   that
>>>>>>>>> statement, much to the displeasure of his  boss,  the  president
of
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> United
>>>>>>>>> States. Take the same  question, put  it in print, and then decide
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>> it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> fair to  the dyslexic who might have an   easy time with the audio

>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>   video
>>>>>>>>> clip.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I  Don't like  being  excluded, and if I am excluded enough, I'll
>>>> find
>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>> activity.  It hurts  and seems unfair, but to me it  doesn't rise 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>  level
>>>>>>>>> of discrimination  which, if I understand  it,  means something 
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>  unreasonable and detrimental. I don't think we can be  critical
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> using sight and acknowledging  that it  plays  a major role in the
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> find and  even remember things.  What  we can and should make an
>>>>>>  unequivocal
>>>>>>>>> stand for are  things which  have  nonvisual alternatives but
which
>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>  ignored
>>>>>>>>> to the  detriment of our education and    employment.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I do not mean this  as a  real  answer to the question of what 
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>> I
>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>>>  but
>>>>>>>>> as a thought process we  go through when  trying to decide  when
to
>>>>> fight
>>>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>>>> what we can reasonably fight  for as  blind  people. I am not
>>>> targeting
>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>>>> here but  trying  to engage in some  discussion of a philosophical
>>>>>>  principle
>>>>>>>>> that  I wrestle with at least two or  three  times per month. I
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> question,  even if I don't have  anything like a  good  answer.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From:   nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>> Of  fred   olver
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:45    AM
>>>>>>>>> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing  List
>>>>>>>>> Subject:  [Nfbmo] What would you   do?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A year ago, I   attended a  Trivia Night put on by a food pantry
in
>>>> the
>>>>>>  St.
>>>>>>>>> Louis area. This pantry is supported by  my  church along with
>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>>> After  the night's program was  over, half of  the categories 
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> visual
>>>>>>>>>  in
>>>>>>>>> nature so that a blind person could not   participate in that
>>>>>>>>> portion
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> program I wrote  an item for my churches   news-letter and sent it

>>>>>>>>> on
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> director  of  the  organization. In this item I pointed out that
it
>>>> was
>>>>>>  not
>>>>>>>>> fair  or  necessary to include only video-type  questions and
asked
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> do, in the  future consider having  categories which were 
>>>>>>>>> non-video
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> future. I  received  assurances from  the director of the
>>>> organization
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> indeed   they  would do this.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Last Friday,  I  attended  their Trivia Nighht again. True, only
>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>> categories
>>>>>>>>> of  questions were  video in nature, however these  two
categories
>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>> roughly 1/3 of  the questions.  Yesterday at  a meeting of a 
>>>>>>>>> church
>>>>>>>>> committee
>>>>>>>>>   I
>>>>>>>>> suggested that they with-hold two weeks worth  of  donations  and
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> donations go to  another organization as a  protest, the rest of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> committee
>>>>>>>>> said no  to  this idea, sighting the  possibility that a family
>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>>> do without this food, I  personally doubt it,  and figure  they're
>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>>> comfortable in their place and don't wish  to   because it doesn't
>>>>> affect
>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>> so  what would  you do if you were in  my place? This really
upsets
>>>>>>>>> me,
>>>>>>>>> especially since I had spoken to this   organization a year ago 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> more or less  agreed that this was not  a good  thing to have
>>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Fred    Olver
>>>>>>>>> http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com For some of  us  it's  a way 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> for some  of us it just makes  life  easier. Fred Olver
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