[Nfbmo] FW: [nfbcs] Career Advice

Kyle Borah kgborah at att.net
Wed Oct 10 17:35:26 UTC 2012


I think I went to interstate, but I'm not quite sure.  Nevertheless, it was
very good. :D

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfbmo [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sievert
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:07 AM
To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] FW: [nfbcs] Career Advice

Kyle,

I have been to both Roundevouz and Interstate in Memphis.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Kyle Borah" <kgborah at att.net>
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:01:28
To: 'NFB of Missouri Mailing List'<nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
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Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] FW: [nfbcs] Career Advice

Amen to good bbq in Missouri.  However, the best bbq I have had was in
tenissee.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfbmo [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sievert
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:19 PM
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That is one thing I miss about Missouri.

Good BBQ. Michigan doesn't have that type of yumminess.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:15:27
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Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] FW: [nfbcs] Career Advice

hi,

ok, a big plate of bar-b-que ribs it'll be.
i was just concerned about the hack last time and there were only two or
three people who knew the password but we never found out who released it.
Bryan Schulz


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Sievert" <matt.sievert at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] FW: [nfbcs] Career Advice


>I don't like web sites or computers. I prefer to cook food for people.
>
> Computers and web sites pay the rent and I am good at it, but they are not
> my passion.
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Gary Wunder <gwunder at earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> We agreed to work with Wisconsin and Mr. Beezley to do this and they are
>> still all for it. They are very glad to help and have invested some real
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmo [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 5:16 PM
>> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] FW: [nfbcs] Career Advice
>>
>> Gary,
>>
>> it's the little details that we don't know about members.
>> Matt would most likely be able to draft the convention registration page
>> like myself and he could figure out the card processing/paypal faster so
>> why
>> haven't we asked him?
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Matt Sievert" <matt.sievert at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 3:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] FW: [nfbcs] Career Advice
>>
>>
>> > Good to meet you John,
>> >
>> > My name is Matthew Sievert.
>> >
>> > I have been a programmer since I was in fith-grade.
>> > My current programming backgroud includes
>> > Microsoft .net
>> > Oracle Packages and procedures
>> > JAVA
>> > Php
>> > Cold Fusion
>> > Some javascript
>> > and of course the adoption of jQuery
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gary Wunder <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> This may contribute something meaningful to our employment discussion.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John G. 
>> >> Heim
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:12 AM
>> >> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
>> >> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Career Advice
>> >>
>> >> I am the President of the International Association of Visually 
>> >> Impaired
>> >> Technologists (www.iavit.org) and I'm employed as manager of high
>> >> performance computing at the University of Wisconsin Department of
>> >> Mathematics. My opinion is that information technology is about as 
>> >> good
>> >> of
>> >> a
>> >> career for blind people as it gets. There is hardly any career where
>> >> you're
>> >> not at something of a disadvantage but in information technology, 
>> >> you're
>> >> about as even with your sighted counterparts as you can be in any 
>> >> field.
>> >> And
>> >> it pays well.
>> >>
>> >> I was just in a tavern with my friends last week and we were talking
>> >> about
>> >> the state of the job market in info tech. I mentioned how many of my
>> >> blind
>> >> friends were unemployed and another guy asked, "But do you know 
>> >> anybody
>> >> who
>> >> is any good who is unemployed?" I had to admit I did not. Everybody I
>> >> know
>> >> who is blind and is unemployed either didn't have the aptitude for it 
>> >> in
>> >> the
>> >> first place or else they let their skill set lapse. But I know a lot 
>> >> of
>> >> sighted people who deserve jobs far less and are still employed. I 
>> >> just
>> >> think its way harder for a blind person who not only has to stand out
>> >> above
>> >> all the other applicants, has to stand out so much that the employer
>> will
>> >> take a chance on a blind guy.  But, of course, that problem applies to
>> >> every
>> >> career choice.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not so sure about going into programming though. About 8 years 
>> >> ago,
>> I
>> >> deliberately acquired a new set of skills in order to switch from
>> >> programming to systems administration. I'm not sure I'd advise even a
>> >> sighted person to go into programming these days. I think all the
>> >> programming jobs are drying up and/or moving overseas. All the blind
>> >> people
>> >> I know have jobs as various kinds of systems admins. I personally do 
>> >> not
>> >> know a single blind programmer.  But I'm not sure my sample size is
>> >> meaningful and other people might be able to confirm or deny this
>> >> impression
>> >> of mine.
>> >>
>> >> I've never been unemployed in my entire career. That's because I have
>> >> never
>> >> let my skill set lapse. I spend my own time and money if necessary
>> >> learning
>> >> the latest and greatest. And I work harder than everybody else. I just
>> >> think
>> >> that's what you have to do to succeed as a disabled person.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
>> Garcia
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:08 AM
>> >> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>> >> Subject: [nfbcs] Career Advice
>> >>
>> >> Hello Everyone:
>> >>
>> >> I hope this is the appropriate forum for this question.
>> >>
>> >> I am legally blind with a background in engineering and manufacturing.
>> >> After
>> >> talking with many blind engineers, I find that many of them are 
>> >> thriving
>> >> computer programmers.
>> >>
>> >> I am now trying to decide whether to go to Lions World in Little Rock 
>> >> to
>> >> take their 10 month computer programming course. My counselor at my
>> >> states
>> >> agency for the blind wants me to go to Lions World but to take one of
>> >> their
>> >> IRS courses, which would in essence be a guaranteed job with the Feds.
>> >>
>> >> I am the type of person who could do any job, at least that is what my
>> >> aptitude tests tell me.
>> >>
>> >> What is life like for blind computer programmers? Do most work for
>> >> employers
>> >> or as freelancers/contractors? Are there any languages in particular I
>> >> should focus on? Are there any other ways of learning computer
>> >> programming
>> >> as a blind person than going out of state? Learning on my own is just
>> not
>> >> working for me.
>> >>
>> >> Any advice you can give would be appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Daniel Garcia
>> >> Northville, MI
>> >>
>> >>
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