[Nfbmo] {Disarmed} Reposting a Facebook post that my wife made.

Gary Wunder gwunder at earthlink.net
Wed Mar 8 00:38:43 UTC 2017

Yes, the teacher evidences a keen unawareness when it comes to the needs of
special education students. Was this shown on the syllabus? Is the professor
aware that Jenny is blind?

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Jenny was given an assignment to do.  I am not sure how it happened but
Jenny was never told by the professor or in any of the instructions that she
wanted it done in a power point, there was supposedly some visual example
that the class was supposed to refer to.  So when the assignment was due
everyone presented their project in power point except Jenny who had
completed the assignment and presented it in a word document.
Apparently the word document was not good enough for this instructor and she
had Jenny redo the project and place it in a power point document and
include pictures.  This is a masters level Special Education class not a
technology or a M.S. Office class.

Please correct me if I am wrong but this seemed completely unreasonable to
me, especially seeing that this professor is tasked with teaching Special
Education teachers.

Thanks for your response,
Randy Carmack

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Gary Wunder via Nfbmo <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>

> I come late to this discussion, so there may be comments that I have 
> missed along the way. I think there is some truth in the fact that a 
> picture is worth a thousand words. There are things that can be 
> understood visually and tactiley that take forever to explain. Imagine 
> trying to explain a seesaw and then feeling one. Would the explanation 
> of a jungle gym ever excite the kind of memories and experiences that 
> being on one would? Graphs have a wonderful way of making things clear 
> that numbers simply obscure. So, if you can't see a thing, can we 
> enlarge it so you can, or can we put it under your fingers so that you 
> can take advantage of the sense that is most equivalent to sight? 
> These are the things I worked to make happen when I was in college, 
> but the problem is making them happen in real time. I had to ask 
> somebody to help me after the class by using a raised line drawing 
> board to convey what was on the chalkboard. If there were words in the 
> presentation that I knew how to pronounce but not how to spell, I had to
ask someone.
> Now I may or may not be hitting on the points that are bothering you. 
> When you talk about learning visually, you may be talking about the 
> inaccessibility of websites or the places to which they send you. I 
> remember that when Debbie was in class we had websites that she could 
> navigate with little difficulty, but when she pressed a button that 
> was to start a video important to her class work, it might well open a 
> player that had no identifiable buttons to JAWS for Windows. This was 
> like going 90 miles an hour in hitting a brick wall. It was like being 
> handed an ice cream cone and then being told you couldn't eat it.
> I am guessing that there are solutions to the problems you're facing, 
> but to really help, I need to know more. Please share on the list or 
> send me a private email. Also remember that there is a National 
> Association of Blind Students list and a Missouri Association of Blind 
> Students list. Both can be joined by going to Nfbnet.org. I caution 
> that the national list has quite a bit of traffic, so part of being 
> able to use it effectively is asking your questions and looking at 
> those items that relate to what you have asked or to those items that 
> you can respond to in helping someone else.
> Warmly,
> Gary
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