[Nfbmt] Fwd: [Trainer-talk] Another Resource for VisuallyImpaired Apple users

Wed Jan 30 01:21:17 UTC 2013

We enjoy our pineapple phones giggle.
I have to say if qvc shows the mack I will try to get it.
I don't want to go to windows eight.
Then I would be on all of the apple products.

Original message:
> Thank you very much.
> If when we were first fooling with these things called keyboards that had
> been pecked upon like typewriters and then getting our 20 megabyte hard
> drives to store our thoughts and dreams.  And if when we began using our
> external synth o scissors to cut through the web of graphics that lay before
> us to see how the future would just keep on and on into the infinite.  I
> wonder what I would have done.
> If I knew at the beginning it would be something of a choice between an
> apple and an android. I might well have just taken the greyhound to hawaii
> and elected to pick pineapples. sat around and let gene roddenberry talk to
> me of the q and the borg.

> But here it is. The future is where it always was.
> And I am where I've never been before.

> And I wonder who will care if I bit the apple or conscripted an android.

> Ah, it ain't poy fict.
> But it is iz what it iz, friends.
> Thank goodness Montana has pineapples, too.

> I shall have to look into all of this lovely talk. Jim, Dan, and all. Great
> stuff.
> Rik

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Marks
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:45 PM
> To: 'NFB of Montana Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] Fwd: [Trainer-talk] Another Resource for
> VisuallyImpaired Apple users

> I use a Droid 4 smart phone and dabble with Apple I pads and IPods.  The
> Nexus 7 would be the Android version of the Ipad Mini.  Either is a good
> choice insofar as tablets go.  Accessibility is excellent in both.  The
> Nexus 7 uses either Talkback, Spiel, or Mobile Accessibility.  There is a
> really extensive review of the Nexus 7 on the podcast, "That Android Show."
> Just Google the show name and listen to the most recent edition.

> The Apple stuff uses Voiceover, and you won't go wrong choosing it on any
> platform.  My preference is for Android because I like the openness of the
> system.  Apple controls everything, and it's too hard to experiment with
> apps and features insofar as a comparison with Android goes.  Also, Android
> stuff is generally a lot cheaper.

> I like my Droid 4 smart phone because it has a physical keyboard.  Touch
> typing on a screen is terribly slow for me, although I bet a person gets
> better at over time.  There's an app called Flexi that makes typing on a
> touch screen easier.  Right now, it's only on Apple, but an Android version
> is coming soon.

> My Droid 4 phone's GPS is wonderful, and an app to use the Droid as a scan
> and read tool just came out that's really amazing.  It's called Scanthing.
> I also use my phone to read e-mail, browse the web, identify money, to
> monitor Twitter and Facebook, read Newsline newspapers and magazines and
> Bookshare books, identify colors on clothing, etc.

> One consideration is the learning curve.  Android has poor documentation
> compared to Apple.  Almost everything documentation for either is third
> party.  Android documentation tends to be more scattered.

> Those who like to tinker with things will like Android better than Apple.
> Apple is designed to work the same way all the time.  Android lets
> developers have more free rein, so the results can be a bit bumpy.  The two
> platforms rob ideas from one another a lot.  Every day, the begin to
> function more and more alike as a result.

> Hope this info helps!

> Jim Marks
> Blind.grizzly at gmail.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Burke
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:24 PM
> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] Fwd: [Trainer-talk] Another Resource for Visually
> ImpairedApple users

> The Nexus 7 is an Android OS. I had the opportunity to play with the tablet
> (not the phone), and it is getting there in terms of accessibility.

> In fact, I am not sure what the comparable phone from Google is called
> - Nexus 4 or something?

> The iPhone just works, as a lot of blind people like to say. You're tied to
> the platform as far as the apps and music, etc, that you might buy for it,
> for the most part.

> However, I don't think the Nexus is quite as nonvisuallly accessible as the
> iPhone yet.

> How's that for equivocation?

> On 1/29/13, Rik James <montanarikster at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I really need to figure out if I want or can get one of these phones
>> and figure out how much I'd use it.
>> Does anyone know .. a sighted friend just got a Nexus 7, which I guess
>> is an

>> Android thing. Does anyone know if they have capacity to use the newer
>> screen reading software?

>> Thanks.
>> Rik

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