[Nfbmt] From David Andrews

Wed Nov 27 23:58:47 UTC 2013

Yes clear as mud loll. 

Dar
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Every sinner has a future 

> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:37 PM, "Bruce&Joy Breslauer" <bjb5757 at bresnan.net> wrote:
> 
> The changes in the Braille code are quite small; for example in the word
> "vacation" in the old Grade 2 system you would write as follows: v a c dot 6
> followed by n which means ation sign; in UEB you would write as follows: v a
> c a tion sign; in other words, the ation sign which is dot 6 N is replaced
> by writing A followed by dots 5 6 N which is tion sign; is this explanation
> clear as mud?
> 
> Bruce E. Breslauer 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:28 PM
> To: 'NFB of Montana Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] From David Andrews
> 
> Hi George.  I have been blind for almost 25 years and have gotten by without
> Braille but have reached a point in my life where I see the benefit in it,
> mostly because my eyes are getting so tired using my limited vision.  I
> applied to CCB in Denver over two months ago and was planning on learning
> Braille while there.  It may be a moot  point really because I can't seem to
> get a response from the center on my application but regardless, if I am
> excepted into the program and am given the opportunity to learn Braille I am
> concerned about this new development.  I am a little nervous about being
> able to learn Braille to begin with and now I'm very concerned about having
> to learn two codes instead of one just because of the coming changes.  I
> don't know anything about Braille.  I've heard there is short hand.  I
> assume that you can make numbers as well as letters.  I'm very excited about
> the opportunity to learn it.  I just hope that if I am allowed to go to CCB
> the teachers there will know what they should teach under the changing
> circumstances.  I have known many Braille readers in my time.  Some very
> slow, some very fluid readers.  I hope I can become a fluid Braille reader.
> I have two children.  When I try to read to them, they grow bored because I
> am a horrible reader because of my visual problem.  This is only one of my
> many reasons for wanting to learn Braille.  
> Becca  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of George Kerscher
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:05 PM
> To: 'NFB of Montana Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] From David Andrews
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would not put off learning braille because of this decision. The USA and
> Canada are using different formatting (not the characters) than the rest of
> the English speaking world. Ultimately this means that much, much more
> braille will be available. One of the big points is that the UEB enables
> more automatic translation. Too much of the old BANA codes depended on
> people makingdecisions that should have been automated.
> 
> So, this is good news; this is just my $.02.
> Please do not forward this posting; A more comprehensive analysis should be
> made by more informed people.
> 
> Best
> George
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:37 PM
> To: 'NFB of Montana Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] From David Andrews
> 
> Hi guys.  This concerns me.  Why are they talking about changing the Braille
> code?  I don't see the point.  I'm not yet a Braille user but won't it just
> confuse things if the traditional code is altered?  What is the point? I
> think I've missed something about this subject that came before.  Someone
> must have a reason for changing something that has apparently worked up
> until now.  I was planning on learning Braille in the coming months and now
> I wonder if I should put it off for another couple of years.  What is the
> point of learning it now if it's just going to change in two years?  What is
> the reason for changing Mr.  Braille's product? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:24 PM
> To: nfbmt at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfbmt] From David Andrews
> 
> From:David AndrewsTo:david.andrews at nfbnet.orgSubject:[nfb-talk] Fwd: 
> [BANA-Announce] BANA Affirms Date for Implementation of UEB
> 
> 
>> Press Release
> 
>> November 2013
> 
>> For Immediate Release
> 
>> CONTACT: Frances Mary D'Andrea, Chair
> 
>> Braille Authority of North America
> 
>> Phone: 412-521-5797
> 
>> Email: <mailto:literacy2 at mindspring.com>;literacy2 at mindspring.com > 
>> BANA Affirms Date for Implementation of UEB
> 
>> The Braille Authority of North America (BANA), at its November 8-10 
>> meeting in Louisville, Kentucky, affirmed January 4, 2016, as the date 
>> by which the United States will implement the general use of Unified 
>> English Braille (UEB).
>> This action was based on a year of dialogue and planning that included 
>> the UEB Transition Forum, held on October 16. The forum, which 
>> involved 48 delegates representing 31 organizations from the braille 
>> community, was structured to help organizations craft the steps and 
>> timetable through which the United States will make an effective 
>> transition to Unified English Braille.
> 
>> The decision to adopt UEB in the United States was made by a decisive 
>> vote of the BANA Board on November 2, 2012. The full motion is posted 
>> on the BANA website at
>> 
> <http://www.brailleauthority.org/ueb/UEBpassed.html>http://www.brailleauthor
> ity.org/ueb/UEBpassed.html.
>>> 
> 
>> BANA recognizes that the implementation of UEB will require major 
>> adjustments to the infrastructures that produce, deliver, and teach 
>> braille, as well as time and strategies for braille users to become 
>> familiar with changes in the code. BANA continues to work with leaders 
>> throughout the field to build a carefully designed timeline and 
>> coordinated plan. Detailed timelines are under development by 
>> individual organizations, and transition efforts are now being 
>> initiated. BANA stands ready to collaborate with the braille community 
>> as it builds and adapts the infrastructure necessary for a smooth 
>> transition to UEB. >
>> NOTE: This press release is available in HTML on the BANA website at
>> 
> <http://www.brailleauthority.org/pressreleases/pr-2013-11-26.html>http://www
> .brailleauthority.org/pressreleases/pr-2013-11-26.html.
>>> 
> 
> 
>> For additional resource information, visit 
>> <http://www.brailleauthority.org>www.brailleauthority.org.
> 
>> The Board of BANA consists of appointed representatives from seventeen 
>> member organizations of braille producers, transcribers, teachers, and 
>> consumers. > The mission of the Braille Authority of North America is 
>> to assure literacy for tactile readers through the standardization of 
>> braille and/or tactile graphics. >
> 
> 
>> The purpose of BANA is to promote and to facilitate the uses, 
>> teaching, and production of braille. Pursuant to this purpose, BANA 
>> will promulgate rules, make interpretations, and render opinions 
>> pertaining to braille codes and guidelines for the provisions of 
>> literary and technical materials and related forms and formats of 
>> embossed materials now in existence or to be developed in the future 
>> for the use of blind persons in North America. When appropriate, BANA 
>> shall accomplish these activities in international collaboration with 
>> countries using English braille. In exercising its function and 
>> authority, BANA shall consider the effects of its decisions on other 
>> existing braille codes and guidelines, forms and formats; ease of 
>> production by various methods; and acceptability to readers. >
> 
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