[Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question

Mon Jan 6 05:34:36 UTC 2014

Whatever any state raises their minimum wage to, it stands to reason that
subminimum wages will be lower than that, which only makes our point even
stronger.  If people think that minimum wages should be increased in order
to give workers a decent living wage, imagine how those making subminimum
wages must feel.  They don't have a chance to make a living wage.  But if a
person is disabled or poverty stricken enough and qualifies thereby for
certain Federal or state Government help, like SSI or SSDI or Medicaid or
Medicare or SNAP or any one of a number of other programs, having their
wages raised to a certain level might disqualify them for whatever
income-based programs they would otherwise qualify for, and that may make
things worse for them financially than before.  Aren't these some of the
concerns that might be raised concerning our quest for doing away with
subminimum wages?  How will we answer such questions?  Joy

 -----Original Message-----
From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Burke
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 9:23 PM
To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question

It does matter that it is raised on Colorado and in Montana, because that
means that while nondisabled workers may actually be guaranted a state
minimum above the federal minimum wage, some disabled workers in those same
states are still paid below the federal minimum wage. The divide grows wider
and wider and we need to be the ones who bring a magnifing glass to this for
the public and to bring it to an end!

Dan

On 1/5/14, Rebecca Stewart <becca33 at bresnan.net> wrote:
> I'm sorry but I really don't care that they are raising the minimum 
> wage in CO.  Our issue is that our brethren are being paid 
> "subminimum" wages so it won't matter to our cause what CO raises their MW
to.
> Becca
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dmgina
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:24 PM
> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question
>
> What are they raising it too!
>
> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future
>
>
>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Dan Burke <burke.dall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Colorado is one of the states that is raising its minimum wage this year.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>> On 1/5/14, Dmgina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>>> Wow what did you have for breakfast to come up with such thoughts smile!
>>> As it was shared on the news, Montana doesn't have the money to keep 
>>> up
> with
>>> the raises states are doing. They are doing well to keep jobs.
>>> I do know to keep our mall open they need to come down in price for
> renting
>>> a space.
>>> No wonder we shop on line.
>>> This is happening al over, not just the disabled, or the blind.
>>> It is good to get out there and take a stand.
>>> We are proud to remind others we too need a raise in the working force.
>>> Don't know if I came close to your question, just my thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dar
>>> Every saint has a past,
>>> Every sinner has a future
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 10:54 AM, "Rik James" <montanarikster at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am appreciating what the NFB legislative team is doing. I am 
>>>> looking forward to our trip to Washington, to be part of a 
>>>> collective voice to express our dismay and disgust at what is, and 
>>>> has been going on for
> much
>>>> too long for our fellow blind persons.
>>>>
>>>> What we will ask them, the Congressional representatives to do is 
>>>> important. For us, together and for each of individually, I guess I 
>>>> feel like I need to get my head together and be informed.
>>>>
>>>> And to be able to boil it down into a few concise and 
>>>> understandable
> sound
>>>> bytes. Because that is what we will have in the way of time.
>>>>
>>>> Go around the room, if you please, now, fellow Fedearationists.
>>>>
>>>> Speak your mind now amongst ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> Sing the Dress Rehearsal Rag.
>>>> (Oops, sorry! I drifted in to my music world for a moment, with 
>>>> that Leonard Cohen song title.)
>>>>
>>>> What do you each know about the history of the minimum wage in America?
>>>> In the general sense, I think this is valuable to understand.
>>>>
>>>> What are the big bullet points of that history, that have led us to
> right
>>>> now in time?
>>>>
>>>> History. All around us. Surrounding us.
>>>> And the role we play, today, in that history.
>>>> The future and the present. Unraveling all of it.
>>>> That is what occupies part of my mind, as I try and see about what 
>>>> I
> would
>>>> like to be a part of in Washington at the end of this month.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I felt more optimistic. I have been following our Congress 
>>>> with horror and dismay in the years since last I went on this 
>>>> advocacy pilgrimage.
>>>> And so it makes me rather a grim conversationalist, when sitting 
>>>> around talking. Because I worry that we are all of us, sighted, 
>>>> blind and whatever in a very rough patch for democratic principles, 
>>>> and anyone without a huge money sack of lobby professionals, 
>>>> controlling the pie slicing in America.
>>>>
>>>> But I let that rest. Are you glad?
>>>>
>>>> But here is the next little thing I have to say. That beyond those 
>>>> few moments with a congressmen or one of their staff, there will be 
>>>> time
> with
>>>> one another, us in the National Federation of the Blind, from 
>>>> Montana,
> and
>>>> other state affiliate members around the nation, once again. 
>>>> Anything is possible. Especially when we remain as we are, and 
>>>> continue to evolve
> and
>>>> to work together.
>>>>
>>>> And that is also precious. Don't you think?
>>>>
>>>> I just am hoping now that by that time the weather will cooperate 
>>>> with
> us,
>>>> too. For our travel needs. It will be what it will be. But I wish 
>>>> for it to be smooth sailing, smooth flying, and a waltz on concrete 
>>>> that is not so dreadfully slippery as it is here today in my home 
>>>> town.
>>>>
>>>> Peace Love Joy.
>>>> And man the barricades. We will not go back.
>>>> As Doctor Jernigan and others have chanted lo these decades now for 
>>>> our rights for equality and justice, and a fair shake at everything 
>>>> anyone with complete normal eyesight has.
>>>>
>>>> Rik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
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