[Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question

Mon Jan 6 15:18:21 UTC 2014

Jim and i had a very long talk about this when we should have been sleeping.
I had so many questions for him he wasn't sure about himself.
They were good and I learned allot.

Original message:
> Being blind or disabled does not necessarily mean you are automatically paid
> subminimum wages.  That depends on whom you work for, whether the employment
> is supported employment or not, whether the company gets a "tax break" for
> hiring you, whether your wages are supplemented, there are a bunch of other
> criteria that may come into play.  Does the NFB have any figures -- not
> guestimates -- of how many blind or disabled people are employed,
> underemployed, or unemployed?  I know the unemployment rate for the blind
> has been stated to be somewhere between 70 and 80 percent for as long as I
> can remember.  If that were the unemployment rate for any part of the U.S.
> there would be a big stink raised, I can guarantee you that.  By the way, in
> case someone doesn't know, the unemployment figures you hear on the news
> never take into account the disabled or blind or the chronically unemployed.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dmgina
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 10:38 PM
> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question

> When I worked for pizza hut, as well with big sisters, I got the same raises
> as everyone else.
> I did not understand that working with the public we did not get raises.
> I thought we were fighting for the raise in work shop settings.
> If I am correct, then why would not the workers stand up for you. Or shall I
> say us!

> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future

>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Dan Burke <burke.dall at gmail.com> wrote:

>> It does matter that it is raised on Colorado and in Montana, because
>> that means that while nondisabled workers may actually be guaranted a
>> state minimum above the federal minimum wage, some disabled workers in
>> those same states are still paid below the federal minimum wage. The
>> divide grows wider and wider and we need to be the ones who bring a
>> magnifing glass to this for the public and to bring it to an end!

>> Dan

>>> On 1/5/14, Rebecca Stewart <becca33 at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>> I'm sorry but I really don't care that they are raising the minimum wage
> in
>>> CO.  Our issue is that our brethren are being paid "subminimum" wages so
> it
>>> won't matter to our cause what CO raises their MW to.
>>> Becca

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dmgina
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:24 PM
>>> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question

>>> What are they raising it too!

>>> Dar
>>> Every saint has a past,
>>> Every sinner has a future

>>>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Dan Burke <burke.dall at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Colorado is one of the states that is raising its minimum wage this
> year.

>>>> Dan

>>>>> On 1/5/14, Dmgina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>>> Wow what did you have for breakfast to come up with such thoughts
> smile!
>>>>> As it was shared on the news, Montana doesn't have the money to keep up
>>> with
>>>>> the raises states are doing. They are doing well to keep jobs.
>>>>> I do know to keep our mall open they need to come down in price for
>>> renting
>>>>> a space.
>>>>> No wonder we shop on line.
>>>>> This is happening al over, not just the disabled, or the blind.
>>>>> It is good to get out there and take a stand.
>>>>> We are proud to remind others we too need a raise in the working force.
>>>>> Don't know if I came close to your question, just my thoughts.

>>>>> Dar
>>>>> Every saint has a past,
>>>>> Every sinner has a future

>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 10:54 AM, "Rik James" <montanarikster at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> I am appreciating what the NFB legislative team is doing. I am looking
>>>>>> forward to our trip to Washington, to be part of a collective voice to
>>>>>> express our dismay and disgust at what is, and has been going on for
>>> much
>>>>>> too long for our fellow blind persons.

>>>>>> What we will ask them, the Congressional representatives to do is
>>>>>> important. For us, together and for each of individually, I guess I
>>>>>> feel
>>>>>> like I need to get my head together and be informed.

>>>>>> And to be able to boil it down into a few concise and understandable
>>> sound
>>>>>> bytes. Because that is what we will have in the way of time.

>>>>>> Go around the room, if you please, now, fellow Fedearationists.

>>>>>> Speak your mind now amongst ourselves.

>>>>>> Sing the Dress Rehearsal Rag.
>>>>>> (Oops, sorry! I drifted in to my music world for a moment, with that
>>>>>> Leonard Cohen song title.)

>>>>>> What do you each know about the history of the minimum wage in
> America?
>>>>>> In the general sense, I think this is valuable to understand.

>>>>>> What are the big bullet points of that history, that have led us to
>>> right
>>>>>> now in time?

>>>>>> History. All around us. Surrounding us.
>>>>>> And the role we play, today, in that history.
>>>>>> The future and the present. Unraveling all of it.
>>>>>> That is what occupies part of my mind, as I try and see about what I
>>> would
>>>>>> like to be a part of in Washington at the end of this month.

>>>>>> I wish I felt more optimistic. I have been following our Congress with
>>>>>> horror and dismay in the years since last I went on this advocacy
>>>>>> pilgrimage.
>>>>>> And so it makes me rather a grim conversationalist, when sitting
> around
>>>>>> talking. Because I worry that we are all of us, sighted, blind and
>>>>>> whatever in a very rough patch for democratic principles, and anyone
>>>>>> without a huge money sack of lobby professionals, controlling the pie
>>>>>> slicing in America.

>>>>>> But I let that rest. Are you glad?

>>>>>> But here is the next little thing I have to say. That beyond those few
>>>>>> moments with a congressmen or one of their staff, there will be time
>>> with
>>>>>> one another, us in the National Federation of the Blind, from Montana,
>>> and
>>>>>> other state affiliate members around the nation, once again. Anything
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> possible. Especially when we remain as we are, and continue to evolve
>>> and
>>>>>> to work together.

>>>>>> And that is also precious. Don't you think?

>>>>>> I just am hoping now that by that time the weather will cooperate with
>>> us,
>>>>>> too. For our travel needs. It will be what it will be. But I wish for
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> to be smooth sailing, smooth flying, and a waltz on concrete that is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> so dreadfully slippery as it is here today in my home town.

>>>>>> Peace Love Joy.
>>>>>> And man the barricades. We will not go back.
>>>>>> As Doctor Jernigan and others have chanted lo these decades now for
> our
>>>>>> rights for equality and justice, and a fair shake at everything anyone
>>>>>> with complete normal eyesight has.

>>>>>> Rik

>>>>>> .

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