[Nfbmt] (no subject)

Rebecca Stewart becca33 at bresnan.net
Sat Jan 11 00:13:12 UTC 2014 

Hi Dar.  I was referring to using voice over on my iphone.  I know where all
the keys are on the keyboard but I have to touch the key I want so my phone
will say it and then I have to double tap that key to enter it into my text.
When I first got my iphone, I thought it was great but it quickly became so
long just to type a word on a message.  When I dictate a message to siri,
she usually screws it up so what do I do?  I usually just dictate it anyway
and my friends understand that siri is an idiot if it comes out wrong.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:32 PM
To: nfbmt at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] (no subject)

Oh my goodness you don't have to tap each letter three times to get it into
the machine, unless a word has a letter that nees to be put in three times.
I only know the l l for many words that needs to be typed.
Anything like that.
We sure can help you set up your phone for any typing you would like to do.
You will be surprised what you can do.

Original message:
> Hi Sheila.  I agree with you.  I very much prefer to type.  I only use 
> the touch screen  on my iphone because siri always screws up my 
> dictation but it is so cumbersome hitting each key three times to type 
> a word.  I don't text much any more because of it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sheila
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 9:58 AM
> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] (no subject)

> hi to throw another oppinnion in to the mix, I'm not a fan of touch
screens.
> I like using a keyboard and I know you can get a keyboard for ipads 
> but don't know about iphones. Because I don't like touch screens, I 
> don't see an iphone in my future at least now.
> On 1/10/2014 6:38 AM, Rebecca Stewart wrote:
>> Hi Jim.  I am also an Iphone user.  I think you are probably 
>> directing your message to me although you address everyone in your 
>> greeting, it's not entirely clear to me.  I am an iphone user 
>> although I don't think I've gotten as much training on it as all of 
>> you.  Dar was just telling me yesterday of an ap that will give me 
>> tons of information about using the Iphone which I've never heard of.  
>> I have been impressed with the things I've been doing on my Iphone 
>> and now I'm learning from Dar that apparently there are many more 
>> things I can do with it.  I'll have to pursue learning about that ap 
>> some time in the
> future.
>> Becca

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James 
>> Aldrich
>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:38 PM
>> To: nfbmt at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] (no subject)

>> Hi all,

>> I'd say we have compared notes and asked questions and discussed many 
>> things through the years since we've known each other for some time.
>> This has helpped.  I too had some help with the PC from a friend but 
>> have pretty much gone on my own and learned what I know today.

>> I'll briefly say Dan Burke, Dar and myself are the only ones who 
>> actively use the IPhone other than yourself.  We certainly would be 
>> happy to share what we know!

>> Jim


>> Original message:
>>> When I was mentioning Microsoft Word, I was thinking of Sheila 
>>> because I don't remember if she has that on her computer or not.
>>> Were you able to get the information I sent you about the fact sheets?
>>> I can't speak for Bruce, but I can tell you that I went to a school 
>>> for the blind at a young age and got a good grounding in Braille 
>>> there.  Bruce grew up in the same town as the blind school in 
>>> California, and his parents refused to send him there.  As far as 
>>> cooking is concerned, I am pretty much self-taught.  My mom was 
>>> afraid to let me in the kitchen for fear I'd burn the place down.
>>> Truth was she didn't have the patience to teach me what she knew.  
>>> It was just easier for her to do it herself.  She was a good cook, too.
>>> So I got out on my own and learned through trial and error.  I 
>>> didn't get training in cooking.  When I was old enough, the home ec 
>>> class at the high school didn't know how to incorporate me, and the 
>>> one at the blind school didn't exist because there weren't enough of 
>>> us.  I went to public school my last two years of high school and I 
>>> don't know if there would have been time for home ec then.  I would 
>>> have loved it, though.  It seems funny to me that my mom had the 
>>> attitude she did about me in the kitchen, because in every other way 
>>> I was treated as normally as possible and expected to do chores and 
>>> have responsibilities and be just a regular kid.  My parents even 
>>> moved to the same town where the blind school is, so that I could go 
>>> to school
>> every day and come home and be with my family in my neighborhood at 
>> night like every other kid.

>>> I had known typing since something like second or third grade 
>>> because we were taught it in school, so jumping to computers was 
>>> relatively easy, especially in the Dos days before Windows.  As new 
>>> things have come along, I have learned a few things by having a 
>>> computer expert familiar with screen readers come and show me a few 
>>> things to get me started, but now I learn more by reading tutorials 
>>> and just trying
> things.
>>> Have they said why they don't want you to come to CCB?  That doesn't 
>>> seem in character for them.  Maybe your application is just taking a
>> while.

>>> Maybe the reason Bruce and I do as well as we do is because we have to.
>>> Necessity is the mother of invention.  Nobody is here to do things 
>>> for us, so we have had to figure out ways of doing them ourselves.
>>> You learn how to do certain things after a lifetime of living a 
>>> certain way.  I suppose you could call it immersion training.  Joy 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca 
>>> Stewart
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:22 PM
>>> To: 'NFB of Montana Discussion List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] (no subject)
>>> Hi Joy.  I have Word 2013 in my computer.  No.  I'm sure the problem 
>>> lies with the operator.  I'm not very good at using a computer.  I 
>>> had hoped to learn better computer skills and so much more at CCB 
>>> since they offer all of that but for some reason they appear to not 
>>> want me to come to CCB so I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm in 
>>> quite a pickle.  I don't know how to use a computer beyond a few 
>>> things my friend showed me, I can't read Braille and I'm not very 
>>> competent at cooking.  These are all things I had hoped to get at 
>>> CCB.  Did you get
>> training at CCB or some other school for the blind?
>>> Just tell me if it's none of my business.  I'm curious because you 
>>> and Bruce are both blind.  It must be difficult for you guys to 
>>> manage unless one or both of you received training.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce&Joy 
>>> Breslauer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 6:53 PM
>>> To: 'NFB of Montana Discussion List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] (no subject)
>>> I'm wondering if, since these are in Microsoft Word and you don't 
>>> have that on your computer, (I don't think), that's why you can't 
>>> access
> them.
>>> Otherwise, I don't have any other bright ideas.  But we got it 
>>> solved anyway.  Joy

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