[Nfbmt] {Spam?} Re: real i.d.
lindazh2 at juno.com
lindazh2 at juno.com
Thu Nov 24 03:34:20 UTC 2016
What I've read is that a passport is acceptable so that's what I'll be using to fly to National Convention 2018. Linda
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 15:55:26 -0700
A REAL I D is the name given to the "accepted" I D required by the Federal
Government. Montana says that their I D & Drivers license is more secure
than the Federal governments requirement, but hasn't been able to convince
the "powers that be" yet.
Ted
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Except for what I have, I have no clue what a real ID is.
Land sakes you have your picture, rite there, just plum silly.
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> As I understand, in January 2018, )a year plus from now), you will
> need a Real I D or some other acceptable form. A Montana I D or
> drivers license will not be accepted.
> Ted
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> I'm trying to find out. I don't have any of the other forms of i.d.
> like a passport, a green card, a naturalization card, or whatever.
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> After all of that babble I am not sure where Montana stands.
> Are they saying one might need a pass port? Something like that for a
> second ID?
> Original message:
>> Current Status of States/Territories
>> The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced on December 20,
>> 2013 a phased enforcement plan for the REAL ID Act (the Act), as
>> passed by Congress,
>> that will implement the Act in a measured, fair, and responsible way.
>> Enforcement
>> If a state or territory does not receive a new extension Federal
>> agencies may not accept licenses and identification cards issued by
>> these states and territories
>> beginning January 30, 2017.
>> Noncompliant States/Territories
>> The following states remain noncompliant and have not been granted a
>> renewed extension and will be subject to REAL ID enforcement
>> following a short grace
>> period. Starting January 30, 2017, Federal agencies and nuclear power
>> plants may not accept for official purposes driver's licenses and
>> state IDs from
>> a noncompliant state/territory without an extension.
>> list of 6 items
>> .Kentucky
>> .Maine
>> .Montana
>> .Oklahoma
>> .Pennsylvania
>> .S. Carolina
>> list end
>> Real ID Public FAQs | Homeland Security
>> Official website of the Department of Homeland Security
>> REAL ID Frequently Asked Questions
>> The following are frequently asked questions about the REAL ID
>> program that would be useful to the public.
>> Q: What is REAL ID?
>> Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11
>> Commission's recommendation that the Federal Government "set
>> standards for the issuance of
>> sources of identification, such as driver's licenses." The Act
>> established minimum security standards for state-issued driver's
>> licenses and identification
>> cards and prohibits Federal agencies from accepting for official
>> purposes licenses and identification cards from states that do not
>> meet these standards.
>> States have made considerable progress in meeting this key
>> recommendation of the 9/11 Commission and every state has a more
>> secure driver's license today
>> than before the passage of the Act.
>> Q: What do I need to do if I am visiting a federal facility or a
>> military base?
>> Starting October 10, 2015, visitors seeking access to military bases
>> and almost all Federal facilities using their state-issued driver's
>> licenses or identification
>> cards must present proper identification issued by REAL ID compliant
>> states or a state that has received an extension. When planning a
>> visit to a Federal
>> facility or military base, visitors should contact the facility to
>> determine what identification will be accepted.
>> Q; Will a federal agency accept my Enhanced Driver's License?
>> Yes. State Enhanced Driver's Licenses (EDLs) designated as acceptable
>> border-crossing documents by DHS under the Western Hemisphere Travel
>> Initiative are
>> acceptable for official federal purposes such as accessing a Federal
>> facility or boarding a commercial aircraft. Individual agency
>> policies may still apply.
>> Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, and Washington are the only
>> states that currently issue EDLs. For more information on EDLs,
>> please go to
>> www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they.
>> Q: REAL ID does NOT apply to the following:
>> list of 6 items
>> .Entering Federal facilities that do not require a person to present
>> identification
>> .Voting or registering to vote
>> .Applying for or receiving Federal benefits
>> .Being licensed by a state to drive
>> .Accessing Health or life preserving services (including hospitals
>> and health clinics), law enforcement, or constitutionally protected
>> activities (including
>> a defendant's access to court proceedings)
>> .Participating in law enforcement proceedings or investigations
>> list end
>> Q: Why is DHS implementing air travel in stages?
>> On January 8, 2016, the Secretary of Homeland Security announced the
>> following timetable for the implementation of the REAL ID Act for air
> travel:
>> list of 5 items
>> .Effective immediately, the Department of Homeland Security will
>> conduct outreach to educate the traveling public about the timeline
>> below, and continue
>> engagements with states to encourage compliance with REAL ID standards.
>> .Starting July 15, 2016, TSA, in coordination with airlines and
>> airport stakeholders, will begin to issue web-based advisories and
>> notifications to the
>> traveling public.
>> .Starting December 15, 2016, TSA will expand outreach at its airport
>> checkpoints through signage, handouts, and other methods.
>> .Starting January 22, 2018, passengers with a driver's license issued
>> by a state that is still not compliant with the REAL ID Act (and has
>> not been granted
>> an extension) will need to show an alternative form of acceptable
>> identification for domestic air travel to board their flight.
>> Passengers with driver's licenses issued by a state that is
>> compliant with REAL ID (or a state that has been issued an extension)
>> will still be able to
>> use their driver's licenses or identification cards.
>> .Starting October 1, 2020, every air traveler will need a REAL
>> ID-compliant license, or another acceptable form of identification,
>> for domestic air travel.
>> list end
>> This timetable recognizes that some states must change their laws to
>> comply with the REAL ID Act. It is also designed to provide an
>> opportunity for members
>> of the public to learn more about the implications of not having a
>> REAL ID-compliant license, and so that individuals have an ample
>> opportunity to replace
>> their pre-REAL ID licenses with new compliant licenses or to obtain
>> another acceptable form of identification.
>> Q: When will I need to change how I travel domestically?
>> Starting January 22, 2018, passengers who have driver's licenses
>> issued by a state that is not yet compliant with REAL ID and that has
>> not received an
>> extension will need to show an alternative form of acceptable
>> identification for domestic air travel. Please see
>> TSA's website
>> for a list of acceptable forms of identification. Passengers who have
>> licenses issued by a state that is compliant or that has an extension
>> to become
>> compliant with REAL ID requirements may continue to use their
>> licenses as usual. For a list of states already in compliance or with
>> an extension visit
>> DHS's REAL ID webpage.
>> DHS continually updates this list as more states come into compliance
>> or obtain extensions.
>> Starting October 1, 2020, every air traveler will need to present a
>> REAL ID-compliant license or another acceptable form of
>> identification for domestic
>> air travel. A REAL ID compliant license is one that meets, and is
>> issued by a state that complies with, the REAL ID Act's security
> standards.
>> Travelers can check
>> DHS's REAL ID webpage
>> at any time to learn if your state is compliant and can check with
>> your state's agency that issues driver's licenses about how to
>> acquire a compliant
>> license. The earlier your state becomes compliant, the more likely
>> you will be able to acquire a compliant license as part of the normal
>> renewal
> cycle.
>> Q: How will the public be notified of these changes for air travel?
>> On January 8, 2016, the Secretary of Homeland Security announced the
>> timetable for the final phase of implementation to the REAL ID Act to
>> inform the traveling
>> public of changes that will be made for identification for domestic
>> air travel effective January 22, 2018. DHS will conduct outreach to
>> educate the traveling
>> public about the timeline, and continue engagements with states to
>> encourage compliance with REAL ID standards.
>> Starting July 15, 2016, TSA, in coordination with airlines and
>> airport stakeholders, will begin to issue web-based advisories and
>> notifications to the
>> traveling public.
>> Starting December 15, 2016, TSA will expand outreach at its airport
>> checkpoints through signage, handouts, and other methods.
>> Q: Will minors need to have driver's licenses to fly domestically?
>> TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when
>> traveling with a companion within the United States. The companion
>> will need acceptable
>> identification.
>> Q: Is a passport my only other option if my state is not compliant?
>> No. TSA currently accepts several other forms of identity documents
>> and will continue to do so. For more information on acceptable forms
>> of identification
>> for boarding aircraft, please see
>> TSA's website.
>> Q: Is DHS trying to build a national database with all of our
information?
>> No. REAL ID is a national set of standards, not a national
>> identification card. REAL ID does not create a federal database of
>> driver license information.
>> Each jurisdiction continues to issue its own unique license,
>> maintains its own records, and controls who gets access to those
>> records and under what circumstances.
>> The purpose of REAL ID is to make our identity documents more
>> consistent and secure.
>> Q: Why is DHS announcing this now? Deadlines have been changed
>> numerous times, so why can't this wait?
>> Since 2013, in accordance with the phased enforcement plan announced
>> by DHS, federal agencies have begun implementation at federal
>> facilities and military
>> bases. The Department has not previously announced a schedule for
>> implementation for air travel. The time has come to complete
>> implementation of the law,
>> in support of the overall goal of ensuring the safety and security of
>> the public.
>> Q: Can states still receive extensions from DHS?
>> Yes. DHS is continuing to provide extensions, as warranted.
>> Extensions are granted for a maximum of one year and may be renewed
>> if a state demonstrates
>> continued progress towards compliance. Extensions are not a long-term
>> alternative to a state becoming compliant. All states must become
>> compliant-both
>> in terms of the law, but also to prevent the burden of additional
>> documentation from falling on their residents.
>> Q: What happens to travelers who show up without a compliant license?
>> Will TSA turn them away?
>> DHS has been working with states for years around REAL ID compliance
>> and have provided technical assistance, grants and other support to
>> them. We are
>> also providing more than two years advance notice of implementation
>> with respect to domestic air travel to allow ample time for all
>> states to achieve compliance,
>> or for potential air travelers to acquire an alternate form of ID if
>> their state does not comply with REAL ID.
>> Starting January 22, 2018, travelers who do not have a license from a
>> compliant state or a state that has been granted an extension (
>> a complete list of non-compliant states/ territories can be found
>> here)
>> will be asked to provide alternate
>> acceptable identification.
>> If the traveler cannot provide an acceptable form of identification,
>> they will not be permitted through the security checkpoint.
>> Starting October 1, 2020, every traveler will need to present a REAL
>> ID-compliant license or another acceptable form of identification for
>> domestic air
>> travel.
>> Q: Why are some states still not compliant? Isn't this law?
>> REAL ID is a mandate on Federal agencies, restricting the
>> circumstances under which they may accept state-issued driver's
>> licenses and identification cards
>> for official purposes. Participation by states is voluntary,
>> although Federal agencies are prohibited from accepting driver's
>> licenses or identification
>> cards from noncompliant states for official purposes (e.g., boarding
>> aircraft, accessing federal facilities, and entering nuclear power
> plants).
>> Q: How does REAL ID implementation impact states that provide
>> driver's licenses and IDs to certain non-citizens/undocumented
immigrants?
>> REAL ID allows compliant states to issue driver's licenses and
>> identification cards where the identity of the applicant cannot be
>> assured or for whom lawful
>> presence is not determined. In fact, some states currently issue
>> such noncompliant cards to undocumented individuals. These cards must
>> clearly state on
>> their face (and in the machine readable zone) that it is not
>> acceptable for official purposes and must use a unique design or
>> color to differentiate them
>> from compliant cards. DHS cautions against assuming that possession
>> of a noncompliant card indicates the holder is an undocumented
>> individual, given that
>> several states issue noncompliant licenses for reasons unrelated to
>> lawful presence.
>> Last Published Date: October 26, 2016
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