[NFBMT] Real I.D.

[Bruce&Joy Breslauer]

I was originally trying to find out how much a nondrivers real i.d. will
cost.  I may call them tomorrow to find out.  Joy

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Lots of babble.
OK if Montana isn't set up yet to make changes, then we can't go get it done.
Is this how I read the message or babble?
Thanks,

Original message:
>> From the Department of Homeland Security.  Joy



> The following are frequently asked questions about the REAL ID program
> that would be useful to the public.



> Q: What is REAL ID?



> Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11
> Commission's recommendation that the Federal Government "set standards
> for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's
> licenses." The Act established minimum security standards for
> state-issued driver's licenses and identification cards and prohibits
> Federal agencies from accepting for official purposes licenses and
> identification cards from states that do not meet these standards.
> States have made considerable progress in meeting this key
> recommendation of the 9/11 Commission and every state has a more secure
driver's license today than before the passage of the Act.



> Q: What do I need to do if I am visiting a federal facility or a
> military base?



> Starting October 10, 2015, visitors seeking access to military bases
> and almost all Federal facilities using their state-issued driver's
> licenses or identification cards must present proper identification
> issued by REAL ID compliant states or a state that has received an
> extension. When planning a visit to a Federal facility or military
> base, visitors should contact the facility to determine what identification
will be accepted.



> Q; Will a federal agency accept my Enhanced Driver's License?



> Yes. State Enhanced Driver's Licenses (EDLs) designated as acceptable
> border-crossing documents by DHS under the Western Hemisphere Travel
> Initiative are acceptable for official federal purposes such as
> accessing a Federal facility or boarding a commercial aircraft.
> Individual agency policies may still apply.



> Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, and Washington are the only
> states that currently issue EDLs. For more information on EDLs, please
> go to www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they.



> Q: REAL ID does NOT apply to the following:



> Entering Federal facilities that do not require a person to present
> identification

> Voting or registering to vote

> Applying for or receiving Federal benefits

> Being licensed by a state to drive

> Accessing Health or life preserving services (including hospitals and
> health clinics), law enforcement, or constitutionally protected
> activities (including a defendant's access to court proceedings)

> Participating in law enforcement proceedings or investigations



> Q: Why is DHS implementing air travel in stages?



> On January 8, 2016, the Secretary of Homeland Security announced the
> following timetable for the implementation of the REAL ID Act for air
travel:



> Effective immediately, the Department of Homeland Security will
> conduct outreach to educate the traveling public about the timeline
> below, and continue engagements with states to encourage compliance
> with REAL ID standards.



> Effective on July 15, 2016, TSA, in coordination with airlines and
> airport stakeholders, will begin to issue web-based advisories and
> notifications to the traveling public.



> Effective on December 15, 2016, TSA will expand outreach at its
> airport checkpoints through signage, handouts, and other methods.



> Starting January 22, 2018, passengers with a driver's license issued
> by a state that is still not compliant with the REAL ID Act (and has
> not been granted an extension) will need to show an alternative form
> of acceptable identification for domestic air travel to board their
> flight.  Passengers with driver's licenses issued by a state that is
> compliant with REAL ID (or a state that has been issued an extension)
> will still be able to use their driver's licenses or identification cards.



> Starting October 1, 2020, every air traveler will need a REAL
> ID-compliant license, or another acceptable form of identification,
> for domestic air travel.



> This timetable recognizes that some states must change their laws to
> comply with the REAL ID Act. It is also designed to provide an
> opportunity for members of the public to learn more about the
> implications of not having a REAL ID-compliant license, and so that
> individuals have an ample opportunity to replace their pre-REAL ID
> licenses with new compliant licenses or to obtain another acceptable form
of identification.



> Q: When will I need to change how I travel domestically?



> Starting January 22, 2018, passengers who have driver's licenses
> issued by a state that is not yet compliant with REAL ID and that has
> not received an extension will need to show an alternative form of
> acceptable identification for domestic air travel. Please see TSA's
> website for a list of acceptable forms of identification. Passengers
> who have licenses issued by a state that is compliant or that has an
> extension to become compliant with REAL ID requirements may continue
> to use their licenses as usual. For a list of states already in
> compliance or with an extension visit DHS's REAL ID webpage. DHS
> continually updates this list as more states come into compliance or obtain
extensions.



> Starting October 1, 2020, every air traveler will need to present a
> REAL ID-compliant license or another acceptable form of identification
> for domestic air travel.

> A REAL ID compliant license is one that meets, and is issued by a
> state that complies with, the REAL ID Act's security standards.



> Travelers can check DHS's REAL ID webpage at any time to learn if your
> state is compliant and can check with your state's agency that issues
> driver's licenses about how to acquire a compliant license. The
> earlier your state becomes compliant, the more likely you will be able
> to acquire a compliant license as part of the normal renewal cycle.
> As of June 11, 2017, Montana is not in compliance with the Real ID
> Act, and Federal agencies may not accept drivers' licenses and
identification cards from Montana.



> Q: Will minors need to have driver's licenses to fly domestically?



> TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when
> traveling with a companion within the United States. The companion
> will need acceptable identification.



> Q: Is a passport my only other option if my state is not compliant?



> No. TSA currently accepts several other forms of identity documents
> and will continue to do so. For more information on acceptable forms
> of identification for boarding aircraft, please see TSA's website.



> Q: Is DHS trying to build a national database with all of our information?



> No. REAL ID is a national set of standards, not a national
> identification card.  REAL ID does not create a federal database of
> driver license information. Each jurisdiction continues to issue its
> own unique license, maintains its own records, and controls who gets
> access to those records and under what circumstances. The purpose of
> REAL ID is to make our identity documents more consistent and secure.



> Q: What happens to travelers who show up without a compliant license?
> Will TSA turn them away?



> DHS has been working with states for years around REAL ID compliance
> and have provided technical assistance, grants and other support to
> them.  We are also providing more than two years advance notice of
> implementation with respect to domestic air travel to allow ample time
> for all states to achieve compliance, or for potential air travelers
> to acquire an alternate form of ID if their state does not comply with REAL
ID.



> Starting January 22, 2018, travelers who do not have a license from a
> compliant state or a state that has been granted an extension (a
> complete list of non-compliant states/ territories can be found here)
> will be asked to provide alternate acceptable identification. If the
> traveler cannot provide an acceptable form of identification, they
> will not be permitted through the security checkpoint.



> Starting October 1, 2020, every traveler will need to present a REAL
> ID-compliant license or another acceptable form of identification for
> domestic air travel.



> Q: Why are some states still not compliant? Isn't this law?



> REAL ID is a mandate on Federal agencies, restricting the
> circumstances under which they may accept state-issued driver's
> licenses and identification cards for official purposes.
> Participation by states is voluntary, although Federal agencies are
> prohibited from accepting driver's licenses or identification cards
> from noncompliant states for official purposes (e.g., boarding
> aircraft, accessing federal facilities, and entering nuclear power plants).



> Q:  How does REAL ID implementation impact states that provide
> driver's licenses and IDs to certain non-citizens/undocumented immigrants?



> REAL ID allows compliant states to issue driver's licenses and
> identification cards where the identity of the applicant cannot be
> assured or for whom lawful presence is not determined.  In fact, some
> states currently issue such noncompliant cards to undocumented
> individuals. These cards must clearly state on their face (and in the
> machine readable zone) that it is not acceptable for official purposes
> and must use a unique design or color to differentiate them from
> compliant cards.  DHS cautions against assuming that possession of a
> noncompliant card indicates the holder is an undocumented individual,
> given that several states issue noncompliant licenses for reasons unrelated
to lawful presence.



> Last Published Date: May 22, 2017



> Identification alternatives for Real I.D.

> Adult passengers 18 and over must show valid identification at the
> airport checkpoint in order to travel.



> Driver's licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by
> Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)

> U.S. passport

> U.S. passport card

> DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)

> U.S. military ID (active duty or retired military and their
> dependents, and DoD civilians)

> Permanent resident card

> Border crossing card

> DHS-designated enhanced driver's license

> Airline or airport-issued ID (if issued under a TSA-approved security
> plan)

> Federally recognized, tribal-issued photo ID

> HSPD-12 PIV card

> Foreign government-issued passport

> Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs
> Canada card

> Transportation worker identification credential

> U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Employment Authorization
> Card
> (I-766)

> U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential



> ID requirements at the checkpoint will change beginning Jan. 22, 2018.
> Learn about REAL ID, read the FAQ or factsheet.



>    A weapon permit is not an acceptable form of identification.

> A temporary driver's license is not an acceptable form of identification.



> Children

> TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when
> traveling with a companion within the United States. Contact the
> airline for questions regarding specific ID requirements for travelers
under 18.



> Forgot Your ID?

> In the event you arrive at the airport without valid identification,
> because it is lost or at home, you may still be allowed to fly. The
> TSA officer may ask you to complete a form to include your name and
> current address, and may ask additional questions to confirm your
> identity. If your identity is confirmed, you will be allowed to enter
> the screening checkpoint. You may be subject to additional screening.



> You will not be allowed to fly if your identity cannot be confirmed,
> you chose to not provide proper identification or you decline to
> cooperate with the identity verification process.



> TSA recommends that you arrive at least two hours in advance of your
> flight time to allow ample time for security screening and boarding the
aircraft.



> If your identity cannot be verified, you will not be allowed to enter
> the screening checkpoint.



>> From dmv.org



> SUMMARY: Montana Identification Cards

> To apply for a MT identification card, you must visit a MVD office and
> provide proof of your residency, identity, lawful U.S. presence, and
> pay the required fee. Renewals must be completed in person. If you've
> lost or damaged your ID card, you will need to re-apply.

> This page will help you obtain an ID card from the Montana Motor
> Vehicle Division (MVD).

> Apply for a Montana ID Card



> To be eligible for a Montana identification card, you must be a legal
> resident of the state. To apply, visit your local Montana MVD office.

> NOTE: Depending on the office you visit, you may be required to make
> an appointment. Call ahead to be sure.

> You will need to submit:

> Proof of your:



> Identity (e.g., birth certificate, passport, Social Security card). (2
> documents required.)



> Authorized U.S. presence (e.g., U.S. passport, foreign passport and
> I-94, U.S. birth certificate).



> Montana residency (e.g., car insurance policy, rental agreement,
> recent bank statement).



> Your Social Security number (SSN).



> Payment for the fee:

> Younger than 21 years old: $8 for 4 years.

> 21 years old and older: $16 for 8 years.

> Veteran Designation

> If you are eligible, you may have a veteran designation on your
> Montana ID card. You will need to complete the Application to Add
> Veteran Designation to Driver License or ID Card (Form 21-3000) and
> submit it either in person or by mail.

> See the application form for fees and instructions.



> Fees for a MT Identification Card

> The length of validity and cost of an ID card in Montana depends on your
age:

> Younger than 21 years old: $8 for 4 years.

> 21 years old and older: $16 for 8 years.

> The costs above apply to replacements and renewals also.

> Renew an Identification Card



> Your Montana ID card will be valid for either 4 years or 8 years,
> depending on your age. You can renew it:

> Up to 6 months before it expires.

> 3 months after it expires.

> You must renew your ID card in person at a Montana MVD office and:

> Provide your ID card OR proof of your identity.

> Provide proof of your name change, if applicable (e.g., marriage
> certificate, divorce decree, court order).

> Pay the fee.

> NOTE: If you live in a rural location with limited services, you must
> first pay your fee at a MT county treasurer's office and submit the
> receipt at the MVD office.

> You will be mailed your new ID card.



> Replace an ID Card

> If you've lost or damaged your Montana ID card, you cannot apply for a
> replacement. You'll need to re-apply for an ID card by following the
> instructions above.

> NOTE: If your missing or damaged ID card expires within the next 6
> months, you may be able to renew it.



> Change Your Name or MT Address

> If you move to a new address in Montana, you must update your MVD
> records within 10 days. It is not necessary to obtain a replacement ID
> card showing your new address, but if you choose to do so, you must
> pay a duplicate card fee.

> For more information, see our Change of Address in Montana page.

> If you've changed your name, you must visit your local MT MVD office
> and provide proof of your name change as well as payment for a
> replacement ID card.

> For more information, visit our Changing Your Name in Montana page.



>> From the doj web site



> The REAL ID Act: Are You Ready for a National ID?

> by Lauren Hannula on May 22, 2013



> People throughout the country might see some big changes happening to
> their driver's licenses and state IDs. As of February 2013, 19 states
> have demonstrated compliance with the REAL ID Act, a piece of
> legislature that imposes much stricter measures on how people can
> obtain a driver's license, and sets more thorough standards as to what
> will be displayed on them. Called the new "national ID," the REAL ID
> Act has gained some traction in light of recent events like the Boston
Marathon bombings.



> But what exactly is the REAL ID Act, and how will it affect drivers
> across the nation?



> The History of REAL ID



> After 9/11, the federal government began to look at ways to increase
> security surrounding state identification cards and driver's licenses,
> in an attempt to prevent further terrorism and/or unlawful entry into
> and out of the country.



> In 2005, the House of Representatives passed a bill into law called
> the REAL ID Act. This Act would set certain federal standards upon all
> driver's licenses, which are currently regulated by each individual
> state. After being passed into law, the bill was tabled until 2007,
> when it was announced that the federal enforcement of the act would be
> postponed for a period of two years. However, many state governments
> were slow to support this act, feeling that it not only infringed upon
> states' rights handed to them by the 10th Amendment, but also created
> unnecessary cost to taxpayers in order to implement the change. It
> wasn't until this year that the federal government announced that all
> states would need to be in compliance with the REAL ID Act by the end of
2017.



> How IDs Will Be Affected



> The REAL ID Act sets forth new federally mandated requirements for all
> state driver's licenses and ID cards. The Department of Homeland
> Security (DHS) has set standards not entirely dissimilar from the
> requirements already in place for most states throughout the country.
> On each ID, the following information must be present:



> Full legal name

> Residential address

> Birth date

> Gender

> Driver's license/identification card number

> Digital front-facing photograph

> Signature

> Driver's licenses and IDs must now also include a common barcode and
> security devices to prevent any tampering with or counterfeiting of
> the card, and must display a star in the upper right-hand corner,
> signifying that your identification has been approved by the TSA and
> your identity has been verified. There are also new requirements put
> in place to obtain an ID or license; all applicants must present the
> following documents during the application process:



> A photo ID, or non-photo ID that contains the applicant's full legal
> name and birth date

> Valid birth certificate

> Social Security number

> Proof of legal U.S. citizenship, OR proof of lawful admittance into or
> temporary residence within the U.S.

> Lastly, each state must also agree to share its database of licensed
> citizens and drivers with all other states, including every piece of
> data on the cards themselves (name, address, birth date, etc.), along
> with all driving records and driver histories of everyone licensed to drive
in the state.



> The Pros and Cons of REAL ID



> Proponents of the REAL ID Act cite its advantages to national
> security. These measures ensure that non-citizens are unable to obtain
> a state-issued ID or driver's license, and also prevent anyone without
> one from boarding aircraft or entering high-security locations.
> Similarly, these IDs would place the United States in the company of
> nearly 100 other countries in the world (including most European
> countries) that have some form of a national ID card.



> Cost, Freedom, and Privacy Concerns



> However, many states oppose the implementation of the REAL ID Act
> based upon the estimated cost. The Act is a unfunded mandate, meaning
> that while the requirement is federally issued, the entire cost of
> recreating and re-issuing millions of licenses and ID cards would fall
> solely upon the states - without any financial assistance from the
> federal government. States are therefore required to raise their licensing
fees in order to make up the added cost.
> putting an extra financial burden upon the licensee, who may simply be
> attempting to transfer one valid license into the REAL ID format.



> Once the Act is fully implemented, residents without the new mandated
> ID will also be barred from boarding airplanes, entering nuclear
> facilities, and performing any other actions that require "official"
federal identification.
> Citizens will need to provide a valid U.S. passport or permanent
> residency card in place of the new ID.



> Another major concern is the idea of personal information being
> gathered and stored into what some are calling a "national database."
> In order for the DHS and TSA to validate a citizen's identity, they
> need to collect and store the information that otherwise would be
> solely kept by individual states. Many are worried about the "Big
> Brother"-esque implications this may have to personal privacy.



> Major Effects Upon Immigrants



> Immigrants and foreign nationals working in the United States are
> similarly worried about how the REAL ID Act may affect their abilities
> to live and work within the country. As the requirements for obtaining
> a new ID card are much more stringent than what some states may
> currently employ, foreigners without legal proof of entry into the
> country or without a Social Security number will be barred from
> obtaining a driver's license, limiting their means of travel
> throughout country by a huge margin and possibly forcing them to
> return to their home country to renew their ID. Then again, supporters
> of the REAL ID Act cite this as an example of the system working
> properly, as it ensures that the only people working and traveling within
the U.S. are those that the government has officially allowed to be here.





> What is REAL ID?

> In 2005 the United States Congress passed the REAL ID Act based on a
> recommendation from the 9/11 Commission to establish "standards for
> the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses."



> Why is Montana not compliant with the REAL ID Act of 2005?

> Concerns over privacy issues and federal overreach have driven
> Montana's overwhelming opposition to REAL ID. In 2007 the Montana
> legislature, by unanimous vote and with support of the governor,
> determined that Montana would not participate in the implementation of the
REAL ID Act of 2005.
> Specifically, the Montana legislature under MCA 61-5-128 directed the
> Department of Justice (DOJ), including the Motor Vehicle Division
> (MVD), to not implement any provisions of the REAL ID Act of 2005.



> Does Montana have an extension to REAL ID compliance from the
> Department of Homeland Security (DHS)?

> Montana's extension from enforcement of the REAL ID Act ended on
> October 10, 2016. DHS is authorized to grant extensions to states
> where there is adequate justification for noncompliance.



> When will the Department of Homeland Security begin enforcement of the
> REAL ID Act for Montana?

> There is approximately a 90 day grace period from the end of Montana's
> extension before the enforcement begins. Enforcement will begin on
> January 30th, 2017 for all Montana licenses and ID cards. For the
> current enforcement status and schedule, please visit the DHS website.



> When will I need a REAL ID identification to travel by air?

> Starting January 22, 2018, all passengers boarding commercial flights
> in the United States must present identification from a state
> compliant with REAL ID, identification from a state that received an
> extension, or an acceptable alternative form of identification.



> What are the accepted alternative forms of identification for air
> travel if Montana does not become REAL ID compliant?

> The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has many types of
> identification that are acceptable instead of a REAL ID compliant
> driver license or state issued identification card. You may find a
> list of these alternative forms of identification at the TSA website.



> You may contact your airline for questions regarding specific ID
> requirements for travelers.



> What do I need to do if I am visiting a federal facility or military
> base after October 10, 2015?

> Starting October 10, 2015, a person who is visiting a military base or
> almost all federal facilities must present identification compliant
> with REAL ID or identification from a state that received an extension.

> Montana's extension to become compliant with REAL ID ended on October
> 10, 2016. DHS gives an approximate 90 day grace period before
> enforcement of the REAL ID Act begins. This means on January 30, 2017,
> you will need a REAL ID compliant identification or acceptable
> alternative form of identification to visit a military base or almost all
federal facilities.



> What do I need to do if I am visiting a federal facility or military
> base after Montana's grace period ends?

> You should contact the federal facility or military base to determine
> what identification will be accepted prior to visiting the facility.



> Are there federal facilities that REAL ID does not apply to?

> There are certain federal facilities that do not require a person to
> present identification. You may find the types of federal facilities
> at the DHS website.



> Can I still use my Montana driver license as a primary form of ID at
> the Social Security Administration (SSA)?

> Yes. The SSA will still accept your Montana driver license for all
> services as a primary ID. You can call the SSA customer service line
> if you have further questions about the SSA's policy on REAL ID at
1-800-772-1213.



> Are Montana driver licenses and identification cards secure?

> Yes. Montana produces secure credentials that fight fraud and protect
> the identities of its citizens.



> Will Montana receive another extension?

> The Governor's office has not submitted another extension request.



> Joy Breslauer, President

> National Federation of the Blind of Montana

> Web Site: http://www.nfbofmt.org <http://www.nfbofmt.org/>



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