[NFBMT] printer/scanner
Jim Marks
blind.grizzly at gmail.com
Mon May 21 19:58:03 UTC 2018
I'll post a website that lets you install Dropbox and other programs on your
PC that's easy to use. I'll explain more in a follow up e-mail.
Jim Marks
Blind.grizzly at gmail.com
(406) 438-1421
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Subject: Re: [NFBMT] printer/scanner
I have it on my phone, where I wanted to do the same thing on the desk top
something went wrong so I stopped.
So much I don't understand.
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> Yes, you can use Dropbox to access files with multiple devices.
> That's the beauty of the cloud. You can also use MS One Drive, Google
> Drive, and other cloud storage options in addition to Dropbox.
> I think the best way to use Dropbox is to install the Dropbox app on
> your devices. You can also access Dropbox through a browser like
> Firefox, but the app method is more convenient. Just install Dropbox
> on your PC and IOS devices, and you should be able to access any files
> stored on Dropbox with any of your devices.
> Best!
> Jim Marks
> Blind.grizzly at gmail.com
> (406) 438-1421
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> From: NFBMT [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
> via NFBMT
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 1:39 PM
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> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [NFBMT] printer/scanner
> What you are saying then is I can move important programs to the cloud
> threw drop box?
> Wow that would be cool.
> I have drop box but don't know how to use it
> Original message:
>> The KNFB Reader app on my Android devices works well for me, but it
>> does take some practice. A user has to get accustomed to holding the
>> phone or tablet correctly to get the best results. Also, I purchased
>> a stand from Amazon that holds my phone steady at the correct
>> distance for taking the photo. Lastly, lighting conditions make a
>> big difference,
> too.
>> Computing is moving away from a PC-based technology to cloud-based
>> technology. The cloud simply consists of servers that store data and
>> provide applications online, so instead of working from a local drive
>> on your computer, your drives are remote. Mobile technology is
>> quickly overtaking the PC model. In the future, but not quite yet,
>> our screen readers will most likely be built into whatever operating
>> system our device uses. For example, for Apple IOS, it's Voiceover.
>> For Android, it's Talkback. For Microsoft, it's Narrator, and for
>> Chrome
> OS, it's ChromeVox.
>> I think Jaws and NVDA will eventually fade away in favor of these
>> built-in screen readers. It's going to take a while yet, especially
>> for Narrator to catch up, but I bet we aren't far from the change.
>> What's really cool about this is that blind people enjoy immediate
>> access to what our sighted peers take for granted. We already can
>> buy and use mainstream devices right off the same store shelf, and
>> it's only a matter of time before this will be the norm for Windows, too.
>> Going back to KNFB Reader, the thing that makes it work for me is
>> that I use the cloud to store information, and I can access the cloud
>> with any of my devices, including my PC. I don't have to mess with
>> file transfers. I simply go to a cloud site like Dropbox, One Drive,
>> or Google Drive, and access my files there. I continue to use my PC
>> for serious work, but this is because the mobile options are not
>> quite fully reliable for me yet, which is caused by a combination of
>> my own lack of mobile skills and weaknesses in under-developed mobile
>> options. Thing is, though, the mobile stuff gets updated rapidly.
>> What might be a barrier one day can go away with an update. Of
>> course, the converse can be true, too, in that an update can break
> accessibility.
>> Best!
>> Jim Marks
>> Blind.grizzly at gmail.com
>> (406) 438-1421
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBMT [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Edward
>> Robbins via NFBMT
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 5:01 PM
>> To: 'NFB of Montana Discussion List' <nfbmt at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Edward Robbins <ecrobbins517 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NFBMT] printer/scanner
>> Joy,
>> You covered several subjects here, and I would like to
>> comment on several. Scanners and a program like Open Book is great.
>> I am fortunate, in that Anna does most of our reading, but when she
>> isn't here I can do it myself. As for Mortgage and other recurring
>> payments, they can be set up for automatic payments so you don't
>> forget
> and get hit with "penalty's".
>> Several years ago we changed our recurring payments, (utilities,
>> phones, Mortgage, NFB PAC, Insurance, etc.) to automatic ACH payments
>> from the bank, or Charge to my Credit card, which I gain points from
>> with each charge. The credit card is then the only payment we have
>> to remember and we set this up for payment to be taken out of our
>> bank account 2 or 3 days before it is due. If you maintain a balance
>> on your credit card, this too can be set up for "Auto Pay" and have a
>> regular amount paid each month. You only have to remember that you
>> have limited funds left in the bank for discretionary purchases, such
>> as
> food, clothing and other necessities of life.
>> FYI, after a few years, I have earned enough points that I
>> can purchase, or Help purchase my air tickets to attend the National
> convention.
>> It is kind of like a savings account. Not a lot, but every little
>> bit helps.
>> As for maintaining records, the computer is good, especially
>> if you "back up" your computer occasionally. You can do this with an
>> external hard drive, or if not that, even a portable "thumb drive)
>> works. Before I was working so much with the computer I used my
>> Braille N Speak and after one of my crashes, one of my boys told me
>> that I needed to "back up" the thing as often as I didn't want to
>> loose the information. You can do this with the external hard drive
>> to "automatically" back up weekly, daily, or any period you choose.
>> As a Christian, I have been reminded several times that even
>> "JESUS SAVES".
>> Each of us needs to use the system that works best for us,
>> whether a Braille record, Computer "backed up" or a paper trail.
>> Ted
>> EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS, E-MAIL: ecrobbins517 at gmail.com CEO MBEI &
>> Treasurer NFB of Montana PHONE & FAX: 406 453 6678, CELL: 406 799
>> 6268
>> 104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
>> GREAT FALLS MT 59404
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>> From: NFBMT <nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of BRESLAUERS via
>> NFBMT
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 2:07 PM
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>> Cc: BRESLAUERS <breslauerj at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NFBMT] printer/scanner
>> We have a room set up in our house like an office where we have a
>> computer desk with a computer, a phone, and a printer/scanner. We
>> had a reader once in Great Falls but when she got married and moved
>> away, we never found another one. It has been so helpful for us to
>> have access to a printer/scanner that we can use with OpenBook to
>> read the mail on a daily basis, and do our banking online. I know
>> everybody doesn't have this setup, but it works well for us. It
>> keeps the paperwork down, lets us know what is and isn't junk mail,
>> and we can pay our bills or schedule them to be paid when we want
>> them to go out, and determine how much they get. That way other
>> people and their schedules and editorial comments don't need to be
involved.
>> Each of us knows exactly what we have at all times, since we keep a
>> running balance in Braille in a notebook. We do this as a team. I
>> love it. I haven't had a lot of success with the KNFB reader yet,
>> but that would be a good option as well for scanning and reading the
mail.
>> Our system works well for us unless we receive something that is
>> handwritten. I know people who keep an expense ledger in a Braille
>> device or on a computer that can be read with a Braille device. I
>> don't trust the computer any more since it has crashed on me more
>> than once and I can't afford to lose irreplaceable information. I
>> also know people who keep notes in their Victor Stream or in their
>> head, or call the phone banking. I don't go by the phone bank
>> because there are always things that haven't cleared yet. You can't
>> afford to make mistakes and forget things, so it is hard to keep tabs
>> on it if you only use your memory. Once, even though I was using the
>> write-it-down-in-a-Braille-notebook method, I forgot to deduct the
>> mortgage payment and wondered where all the extra money came from.
>> Oops, make that twice. I'd like to say I'll never do that again, but
>> I think that's what I said the first time. I think it's really
>> important for blind people to learn home management and how to handle
>> finances. I would bet that most of us have never had any training on
>> it. I didn't take any courses on it in school. I know my parents
>> didn't give me much advice, but the advice they did give me I
>> fortunately
> heeded, and that was to write everything down in a notebook.
>> Maybe that was the only time I heeded their advice. One thing about
>> braille, unless you have a fire or a flood, you're not likely to lose
>> the information like you would in a computer crash.
>> Joy Breslauer, President
>> National Federation of the Blind of Montana
>> Web Site: http://www.nfbofmt.org <http://www.nfbofmt.org/>
>> Live the life you want
>> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and
>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind.
>> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
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