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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Guys I am only jumping in this loop to say a thing or two. First this is something that should be talked about off list. The state as you know has a form that is sent out after the board of directors determine the budget for assistance no matter who puts in a request. Money seems to be a topic that could do more harm than it is worth think of the amount that we are speaking about. We must remember that others can read things on this list and they do not have the information that you would have as officers of the chapter. I say that to say that following this email thread several things are not true and this is not the place to discuss some of it. When we consider assisting people to attend the conventions it is not based on income nor is it about how many times they have received help. We know that people have personal budgets, so the consideration is based on other things. For example I may think a rich member should be denied because I think they are rich, but I have no way of checking his or her bank account. What most of the presidents in the state’s will do is look at it as training for the affiliate or chapter like a business would. I understand all of this, but we can find topics that would be better served on the list. You can feel free to call me and I would be glad to tell you why I am saying this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Richard Payne, President<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>National Federation of the Blind of Ohio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>937-396-5573or 937/829/3368<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Rchpay7@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> NFBMV <nfbmv-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wanda Sloan via NFBMV<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 21, 2018 10:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'NFB of Ohio, Greater Miami Valley Chapter List' <nfbmv@nfbnet.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Wanda Sloan <wsloan118@roadrunner.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFBMV] Fwd.: Money<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chapters usually follow what the State and National does. Looking from a marketing perspective it’s a giant pyramid set up which works well financially when managed properly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> NFBMV [<a href="mailto:nfbmv-bounces@nfbnet.org">mailto:nfbmv-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Spangler via NFBMV<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nfbmv@nfbnet.org">nfbmv@nfbnet.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Robert Spangler <<a href="mailto:spangler.robert@gmail.com">spangler.robert@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFBMV] Fwd: Money<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>They are reviewed at the state level. I don't remember if it's by the board, or if there's a committee; Richard would know those details better.<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 9/20/2018 8:47 PM, Tim Janning wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I would tend to agree that convention assistance should be left to the state and the chapters and divisions should contribute to the state affiliate to support that effort and perhaps there could be a group or team at the state level who could review and determine who would get scholarship assistance. I do not know what criteria is being used by the state to allocate convention assistance or whether it is first come/first served or based on who’s who or who you know.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>T J<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Robert Spangler via NFBMV <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:24 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:nfbmv@nfbnet.org">nfbmv@nfbnet.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Robert Spangler <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Re: [NFBMV] Fwd: Money<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I think in order for me to give a full opinion the names of the individuals need to be included as well. Are these the same folks who went to the national convention? It may be more respectful to send this out to the board only. As I have explained in the past, I am against funding the same people to go to convention every year. In fact, I am against our chapter funding folks to go to conventions at all; the state has a scholarship program for this purpose and we should be donating to that instead. I understand that certain repeat beneficiaries of this funding might not be happy, but it would give folks who have not had a chance to go an opportunity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>On 9/20/2018 1:49 PM, Wanda Sloan via NFBMV wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>So, is Wanda Sloan one of the six//?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> NFBMV [<a href="mailto:nfbmv-bounces@nfbnet.org">mailto:nfbmv-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>carolyn peters via NFBMV<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> Janine Pickens <a href="mailto:jayninepickens@yahoo.com">mailto:jayninepickens@yahoo.com</a>; Robbie Spangler <a href="mailto:spangler.robert@gmail.com">mailto:spangler.robert@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:nfbmv@nfbnet.org">nfbmv@nfbnet.org</a>; Karen Warner <a href="mailto:warnekoo@att.net">mailto:warnekoo@att.net</a>; Tim Jannings <a href="mailto:tjjanning@gmail.com">mailto:tjjanning@gmail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> carolyn peters <a href="mailto:drcarolyn-peters@att.net">mailto:drcarolyn-peters@att.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [NFBMV] Fwd: Money</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Greetings board members at the Miami Valley chapter we have some and finish business to take care of. Please read the forwarded information that I have asked Tim Jannings to provide to the board. Some of this information was discussed in the June meeting we did not follow up, the September meeting no one requested scholarship assistance, although the fun raiser is designated for such purposes 1/3 for the national 1/3 for the state and 1/3 for the chapter to make necessary donations. As we all know we have some members that need financial assistance we have some members that requested every year, no matter why they requested we must provide something if the funds are available. We have six members who have requested scholarship assistance and the state is gracious enough to provide that assistance and has provided it to the same six people for the national as well so is so fair that we support the state with donations for the cars as well as for door prizes. I would like for each of you to review the statement that has been before you and if you have any objections please explain why you object or at least give a rationale for your objection and if not I am strongly recommending that we follow what is outlined in the letter the only exception I would make I would only offer the scholarship refund of $40 for the banquet ticket to those that have requested scholarships we have 11 people that will be attending the State conference only six has requested financial assistance., And they must verify that they attended the banquet in order to get the $40 refund. I hope you’re having a wonderful wonderful day, I just completed a conversation radio invitation with Paul Dressel from Cincinnati and it was absolutely wonderful I had a great time and an opportunity to promote the Miami Valley chapter as I always do. Have a wonderful day if you need to talk to me off-line please do so if not please just reply with a yes or no with a rash and now thank you sincerely Dr. Carolyn Peters<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Please respond ASAP thank you<o:p></o:p></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b>From:</b> "Tim Janning" <<a href="mailto:tjjanning@gmail.com">tjjanning@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> September 18, 2018 at 2:24:21 PM EDT<br><b>To:</b> "carolyn peters" <<a href="mailto:drcarolyn-peters@att.net">drcarolyn-peters@att.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> "Tim Janning" <<a href="mailto:tjjanning@gmail.com">tjjanning@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Money</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Dr Peters</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Just to recap our conversation, our profit from the spaghetti dinner and sale of key chains less associated expenses was $1,127. That is the same number I provided Robbie for the Gavel report. If we spend $50 each for the Ten Brook, Jernigan, White cane, Imagination funds and $50 for state convention door prizes that amount to $250. In addition to the $250 we will make a pledge at the state convention for money for the movement for $100 for a grand total of $350. We spent $350 for National convention assistance for a total of $700 leaving $427 for state convention assistance which would just about cover the cost a $40 banquet ticket for 11 members. The reimbursement for the convention banquet would be after the fact. Hope this all makes sense.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Tim</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NFBMV mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:NFBMV@nfbnet.org">NFBMV@nfbnet.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmv_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmv_nfbnet.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBMV:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmv_nfbnet.org/spangler.robert%40gmail.com">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmv_nfbnet.org/spangler.robert%40gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>NFBMV mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NFBMV@nfbnet.org">NFBMV@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmv_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmv_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBMV:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmv_nfbnet.org/tjjanning%40gmail.com">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmv_nfbnet.org/tjjanning%40gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>