From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 17:47:27 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 12:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] Fwd: [nfb-texas members] Texas Caucus at Convention In-Reply-To: <007001cb18cb$39adcbb0$6401a8c0@DHJK30D1> References: <007001cb18cb$39adcbb0$6401a8c0@DHJK30D1> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Angela S. Wolf" Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:12:23 -0500 Subject: [nfb-texas members] Texas Caucus at Convention To: members at nfb-texas.org Hello: Please join us for the Texas Caucus on Monday evening at convention at 6 PM in the Hospitality Suite. This is going to be another great Texas convention and all of our members make it possible! Thanks in advance for all of your hard work in Dallas! Sincerely, Angela Wolf From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Sun Jul 11 02:42:04 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:42:04 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] Fwd: [TABS] Fwd: FW: Coalition of Texans with Disabilities recently announced Pen 2 Paper! In-Reply-To: References: <5FB3BBA0D707584B883AD1F73A53F9D040C79C6A7F@XMB05.hemc.txnet.state.tx.us> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Gabriel Cazares Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:31:15 -0500 Subject: [TABS] Fwd: FW: Coalition of Texans with Disabilities recently announced Pen 2 Paper! To: tabs_students Check this out TABSters! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Angela.Price at dars.state.tx.us Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:29:42 -0500 Subject: FW: Coalition of Texans with Disabilities recently announced Pen 2 Paper! In case you are interested in submitting something, or know someone who is interested. From: Gonzalez, Dolores [mailto:Dolores.Gonzalez at ci.austin.tx.us] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:03 PM Subject: Coalition of Texans with Disabilities recently announced Pen 2 Paper! The Coalition of Texans with Disabilities recently announced Pen 2 Paper, a disability-focused creative writing contest. The contest is accepting submissions from now until July 30 and will conclude with public readings at several Austin bookstores this fall. The contest includes divisions for fiction, non-fiction, poetry, and graphic narrative, and it is open to Texans of all ages, with or without a disability. $500 will be awarded to one Grand Prize winner. Two additional winners in each division will receive gift cards and prizes, donated by local and state bookstores, magazines, and individuals. There is no charge to enter. For more information, visit the CTD website. -- Gabriel M. Cazares Direct line: 713-269-5156 gmc007 at shsu.edu "We must overcome the notion that we must be regular... it robs you of the chance to be extraordinary and leads you to the mediocre." Uta Hagen -- The Texas Association of Blind Students Web Site: www.nfb-texas.org/tabs.html Toll Free: 877-887-5902 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Texas Association of Blind Students" group. To post to this group, send email to tabs_students at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tabs_students-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tabs_students From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Sun Jul 11 13:09:35 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:09:35 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] Fwd: [TABS] After Southern Strums In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Juan Del Rosario-Martinez Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:41:11 -0500 Subject: [TABS] After Southern Strums To: tabs_students at googlegroups.com >From the Desk of the President: I would like to thank each and everyone of you all who attended Southern Strums this past Monday as part of the National Federation of the Blind National Convention. To those of you who came, and those that supported us in spirit, I extend a bow of gratitude and appreciation for supporting our student division. We had a record number of attendants and brought in so many people into the Uptown Bar and Grill that they actually had to call in 3 more staffers in order to serve all you Federationists. We had an incredible show of support, excitement and apreciation for our efforts and therefore feel wonderful to have achieved such new Heights. In a time where being Blind still has its barriers left to break, it is nice to bring together 80+ guests and show a well known establishment that we are all a family, we are all strong, and we all are one. TABS was greeted with open doors and open arms into the Uptown Bar and Grill, and for that we have you all to thank. I also would like to thank my board. The TABS Board hit the ground running and was extremely active throughout the process. I have been truly blesses and humbled to work with these fine individuals: Kayleigh Joiner James Watson Ashley Alexander Antoinette Cervantes Daniel Martinez Juan Carlos Munoz and special thanks to Louis Maher Gabriel Cazares Arielle Silverman Joe Orozco A.Z Martinez We will continue to work hard for you all, because it is you, our members that inspire us to greatness. Juan Del Rosario. President Texas Association of Blind Students www.nfb-texsas.org/tabs.html -- The Texas Association of Blind Students Web Site: www.nfb-texas.org/tabs.html Toll Free: 877-887-5902 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Texas Association of Blind Students" group. To post to this group, send email to tabs_students at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tabs_students-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tabs_students From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 20:36:28 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:36:28 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] Fwd: [nfb-texas members] webmaster In-Reply-To: <0EC8309619544A78920E8075953E88E0@jjsPC> References: <0EC8309619544A78920E8075953E88E0@jjsPC> Message-ID: Congradulations to my good friend Juan! We are sure you will do great in this knew position and you will continue to make us proud. All the best. A. Z. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jim Shaffer Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:48:51 -0500 Subject: [nfb-texas members] webmaster To: members nfb-texas Well I had to look at my email, and I found a note from Louis Maher dated March 16, 2005, letting me know that I was now webmaster. That's 5 years ago! I am delighted to tell you that you now have a new webmaster, Juan Del Rosario-martinez. Congratulations Juan! Please send all your updates to Juan at delrosariomartinez.juan at gmail.com. It's been a pleasure serving you, and I'm sure Juan will do at least as good a job. Just give him a little time to get his feet wet. -- Jim Shaffer Pflugerville, TX email: jjs at jjshaffer.net cell: 512-699-9251 web page: www.jjshaffer.net band page: www.pgramblers.com/ From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 02:31:25 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:31:25 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] Fwd: [nfb-texas members] Thanks to All for a Great Convention! In-Reply-To: <004d01cb26e6$5cab60e0$6401a8c0@DHJK30D1> References: <004d01cb26e6$5cab60e0$6401a8c0@DHJK30D1> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Angela S. Wolf" Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:01:54 -0500 Subject: [nfb-texas members] Thanks to All for a Great Convention! To: members at nfb-texas.org Dear Fellow Texans: Thank you for all of your hard work to make this year's convention a great one! We had a lot of positive feedback; everyone was appreciative of our warm southern hospitality. A big thank you to Marilyn Monroe for organizing the buses and the Hospitality Suite and Info Table schedules. It is inspiring to be a part of an affiliate that pitches in and works together! Looking forward to another great Texas convention in 2012. Warmest Regards, Angela Wolf From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 02:00:46 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:00:46 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] A good read Message-ID: I ran across this article while doing some research, and I thought I send it to the list. It is a really good read, especially coming from one of our Federation Leaders. Enjoy ----- I'm Partially Sighted, and I Use a White Cane by Peggy Chong Peggy Chong Editor?s Note: Peggy Chong and her husband, Curtis Chong (who is also blind), are well-known and respected leaders within the National Federation of the Blind. Her story about how she came to use a cane was originally published in the volume 16, number 4 issue of Future Reflections. Here?s what she has to say: As a very young child, I was aware that I did not see as well as the other kids in the neighborhood. It was well-known that the family down the block was made up of a mother and several of her children who could not see too good. Congenital cataracts run in my family. While I was growing up it was stressed that I should try to fit in, to be like everyone else. What I was being told was to ?look sighted.? A graphic example of this was in church. We were always told to sing along using the songbook, even though my sisters and I could not read it. If I would try to read it by putting the book up to my face, a hand would come over and move the book down to the sighted reading distance. So, I pretended to read the songbook, to be sighted. In my teens I knew that this was not going to work if I wanted to get ahead in life and be happy. I had met blind adults who were working, buying their own homes, and raising families. I wanted to have the same happiness I saw in their lives. A counselor from the state agency for the blind recommended shyly--and outside of my Mother?s earshot--that I get a folding cane just for identification purposes. She did not get me one or tell me how to use a cane, so the topic was just dropped. In my late teens I bought a cane and started carrying it to places when I did not know my way around. One of my sisters was about three at this time, and she asked my Mother, ?Why does Peggy have a cane?? My Mother?s reply was loud and meant for me to overhear. ?She is pretending to be blind.? That hurt a lot. My Mother was blind. In fact, she had less vision than I did at the time. But she did not want to be blind or have anyone think that she might have difficulty seeing. She always traveled on my Dad?s arm. Mom would not go shopping without a sighted person. This was not what I wanted for myself. But her comment hurt so much that it was very difficult for me to take my cane from the corner where I parked it when I got home. For the next ten years or more I would only take my cane when I was traveling alone, or to a place I did not know well, or where I was sure no one would see me who might tell my folks. When I used my cane, people treated me better. They did not get mad when I asked them to show me where something was in a store. Bus drivers were friendlier when I asked what number route that bus was. I felt less frustrated after trips I made with my cane. But because I am a ?high partial,? there was this little voice inside of me that echoed my Mother?s words: ?You?re just pretending to be blind.? I started to do some soul searching. Why did I resist taking my cane shopping when I knew it would be helpful? Sales clerks did not follow me around like I was going to steal the place when they saw me looking closely at things. I could get clerks or other customers to read the packages for me if I was carrying my cane. There was no need for lengthy explanations when trying to get a person behind the counter to read me what was on the menu that hung right behind them in a fast food restaurant. I also took a look at what others might be thinking when they saw my cane. It became obvious to me that there were many conflicting emotions about blindness tied into the symbol of the cane. I found it fascinating to discover that the most negative feelings were held by blind people who did not use a cane, like my Mother and sisters. The blind people that did use a cane felt good about their cane. They felt good about themselves. But most importantly, they were the blind people out there doing something with their lives! They were the happy, successful blind people. Then in 1992 I decided it was time to get some real training as a blind person. I spent nine months at an NFB training center where I had classes in computers, Braille, and of course, cane travel. After graduating from BLIND, Inc. in Minneapolis, I wondered how people would treat me now that I had decided that I was going to use a white cane all the time when I went out. My daughter, who had just gotten into her teens, said that it was ?weird? to see me with a cane all the time. But it didn?t seem to make that much difference to her for very long. Now she finds my white cane helpful. Now, when she meets me at a restaurant or large room somewhere, to save time she just walks in and asks if there is a blind lady in there. My blind friends thought the cane was great and gave me lots of encouragement. Most of my sighted friends took it with a grain of salt. The only sticky point left was my family. My one sighted sister and her family got used to the idea in no time. I talked to her children about why I used a cane, and it was accepted with only a few questions. The rest of the family were different. Some of my aunts did not understand. They felt that my Mother had gone this long without using a cane, surely I could go without one, too. They were embarrassed. I have three other sisters who are also legally blind. They are uncomfortable around my cane as though it will give them some incurable disease. But when my cane can benefit them, well, that is another story. We all attended a cousin?s wedding a few years back. The wedding was held in an old church with long, narrow, and dark halls and many stairs. As I got there before many of my family, I was toward the front of the church, and they were near the back. As we all do at weddings, I stopped a minute or two to talk to relatives I hadn?t seen in a while. When I got to the back of the church, at the top of the stairs, there were my sisters. I stopped and looked at them for a minute; there was a lengthy pause. I asked what we were waiting for. One of my sisters replied, ?Well you got the cane. You go first.? My Mother was diagnosed with cancer not long after that. If she saw the cane she always found a way to make some comment about me trying to focus people?s sympathy on myself. I didn?t need any more emotional upheaval in my life at that time and thought she didn?t either, so I did not use my long, straight cane when I visited her. I took a folding cane and put it in my purse. That is when I noticed just how much I had gotten to depend on the cane. Over the years my eyes have become more sensitive to light. Many times I will close my eyes when I walk outside in the bright light. It was difficult to walk with my eyes closed when my cane was parked in the car. I walked slower without my cane. Stairs made me nervous. During this time I carried a folding cane to avoid hurting my Mother. I also became convinced that a straight cane was a much better way to travel. Folding canes, fold! Usually right in the middle of a six-lane intersection, or when I am carrying many things and truly need it to find everything in my path. Now that I?m back to using a straight cane, a folding cane is still in my purse or suitcase just in case my straight cane breaks or if I am traveling on an airplane. But that is about all the use I have for a folding cane. Mom?s doctors all knew I was blind. I found that they gave me more thorough information than they gave my sisters. I have often wanted to ask the doctors why that was. My Mother was in denial of her cancer. Did the doctors assume that Mom?s denial of her cancer was related to the denial of her blindness? Did they assume that my sisters, who are also blind but try to hide their blindness, also would not want to deal with Mom?s cancer? When I went to the doctor appointments or to the hospital, I found the doctors and nurses eager to talk to someone in the family about her condition, test results, their suggestions, and recommendations. The rest of the family reported that no one talked to them. Looking back, I believe that my cane told the medical professionals that I could deal with life?s frustrations successfully and move on. Since it has been over five years now that I have used my cane almost everywhere, my family knows it is not a phase. I know my cane still makes some people uncomfortable, but this is my life. I need to feel good about myself in order to lead a happy life. If, once in a while, someone is uncomfortable around my cane I figure they will either get used to it, or they are probably not going to be very important in my life for long, anyway. My cane is here to stay. From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 11:52:20 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:20 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Resolutions from NFB Convention Now Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For those who did not attend this years national convention, here is a great opportunity to find out what the Federation will be actively working in the coming year. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Andrews Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:10:08 -0500 Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Resolutions from NFB Convention Now Available To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org The following message comes from Sharon Maneki (nfbmd at earthlink.net), Fellow Federationists, The resolutions passed during the 2010 NFB National Convention are posted on our Web site at http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Resolutions.asp?SnID=4 and will be published in an upcoming issue of the Braille Monitor. Individual resolutions for distribution or personal use can also be obtained from Kristian Kuhnke at kkuhnke at nfb.org. Sincerely, Sharon Maneki, Chair Resolutions Committee David Andrews: dandrews at visi.com Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920 _______________________________________________ Nfbnet-members-list mailing list Nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 20:39:45 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:39:45 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] July Presidential Release now online Message-ID: Hope you are all able to listen to it. Enjoy http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Presidential_Releases.asp From jamessofka at att.net Sun Jul 25 23:13:30 2010 From: jamessofka at att.net (James Sofka) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:13:30 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] Fw: [Blindtlk] NBP-Announce: Windows 7 and Vista Explained! Message-ID: Hi, all. For your information. Jim Sofka. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Grima (by way of David Andrews)" To: Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:05 PM Subject: [Blindtlk] NBP-Announce: Windows 7 and Vista Explained! > Windows 7 and Vista Explained: A Guide for Blind and Partially Sighted > Users > By Dr. Sarah Morley Wilkins and Steve Griffiths > In Braille (5 vols.), eBraille (electronic BRF edition), Audio CD, Large > Print, or Multimedia CD (see description of Multimedia CD contents > below): $45.00 > Accompanying computer screen diagrams (tactile/braille or large print): > Sold separately for $28.00 > > Award-winning author Dr. Sarah Morley Wilkins has teamed up with Steve > Griffiths in this new step-by-step guide on Microsoft Windows 7 and > Vista, written specifically for blind users. 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Or order any of our books online at > http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/publications/index.html . > > > _______________________________________________ > Nbp mailing list > Nbp at nbp.org > > PLEASE DO NOT respond to this message! It is an automated message and your > query will not reach us. Send questions to orders at nbp.org . > > Visit us at http://www.nbp.org > > > _______________________________________________ > blindtlk mailing list > blindtlk at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindtlk: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/jamessofka%40att.net From jose.martinez07 at gmail.com Mon Jul 26 23:05:03 2010 From: jose.martinez07 at gmail.com (Jose Martinez) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:05:03 -0500 Subject: [Nfbsatx] Fwd: [TABS] Stargardt's Disease In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Juan Del Rosario-Martinez Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:26:12 -0500 Subject: [TABS] Stargardt's Disease To: tabs_students at googlegroups.com From: Priscilla Arvani, President NFB Arlington Chapter "Braille Readers ARE Leaders" I am turning to you all in TABS to ask if anyone in TABS has Stargardt's disease. The executive director Kathi Fowler of Prevent Blindness of Fort Worth is searching for a Stargardt's disease support group to refer a young 22 year old to such a group. If anyone knows of anyone or has this condition could you kindly send an email to Kathi Fowler Kathi at preventblindnessfw.org . -- -Juan Del Rosario President Texas Association of Blind Students www.nfb-texas.org/tabs.html Cellphone: (713) 487-JUAN National Federation of the Blind of Texas Webmaster www.nfb-texas.org -- The Texas Association of Blind Students Web Site: http://www.nfb-texas.org/tabs.html Be sure to follow us by searching tabs.students at gmail.com on Facebook, MySpace, and Twitter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Texas Association of Blind Students" group. 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The ruling states that one of the circumstances in which circumvention of technology that limits access to copyrighted works is not a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is: "literary works distributed in ebook format when all existing ebook editions of the work (including digital text editions made available by authorized entities) contain access controls that prevent the enabling either of the book's read-aloud function or of screen readers that render the text into a specialized format." Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "The National Federation of the Blind commends the Librarian of Congress for recognizing the right of blind Americans to obtain equal access to the information contained in digital books. It is the position of the National Federation of the Blind that blind people have the right to access content for which they have paid or which they have otherwise legally obtained, just like all other readers. We are pleased that the Librarian of Congress sees matters in the same way. The e-book industry, however, has largely failed to recognize our rights. The Amazon Kindle, Barnes and Noble Nook, Sony Reader, and other e-book reading devices and applications still remain inaccessible to us, and we have yet to see accessible e-book readers and content from those who have promised them. At this time, Apple products that can access the company's iBooks are the only mainstream e-book devices accessible to blind readers. The National Federation of the Blind will continue to use every means at our disposal to secure the right of blind Americans to access the same books at the same time and at the same price as all other consumers. We will stand for nothing less." ### About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. David Andrews: dandrews at visi.com Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920 _______________________________________________ Nfbnet-members-list mailing list Nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org