[Nfbsf] Tomorrow's Meeting

Tue Jan 8 00:27:18 UTC 2019

My feeling is that would be much too careful. And when you come from mice from the get-go, you don’t get very much of the end. Seems to me that the national Federation of the blind traditionally is taking it very hard line on many things. But when it comes to subsidies assistance and that kind of thing with very kind of are you careful and take the minimal stand. I think that’s rough. But I think also it’s because Americans are very hesitant about anything to do with subsidies, because they don’t like things such as old God how can I say that is the word socialism! Maybe I am treading on dangerous waters here, because there are many conservative people in the NBA. But I have to say seems to me we should be providing much more for people in this country who are they don’t remain. And whether they’re mind or not. We don’t do that. Capitalism tends to people down and out. And I think that’s what’s happening in this country. So as I say, I support the current legislation at the national Federation of the blind isn’t trying to connect, but I do so extremely reluctantly. I might be kicked out of the NFB for saying this, but frankly that’s the way I feel and that’s the way I want people to know I’m not going to be shy about my feelings. I’ve been dictating these notes, and some places that I’ve been in today or rather noisy so I want to apologize for the poor writing. g

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On Jan 7, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Peacefulwoman89--- via NFBSF <nfbsf at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Very valid points. I get a sense that we're just trying to get our foot in the door without kicking the door off its hinges. 

Lisa

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Subject: Re: [Nfbsf] Tomorrow's Meeting

David – agreed – but why do we always need to be poor? Karen

> On Jan 7, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Daveed Mandell via NFBSF <nfbsf at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hello, everyone: I have some concerns related to two pieces of legislation of the NFB is working on. I like the spirit of the legislation but I have some problems with it. First of all, why do we ask for minimum standards relating to the accessibility of medical equipment and home appliances? Why didn’t we just omit the word minimum? This is been a problem with the United States. That our accessibility standards are indeed minimal and often lag behind those of Europe and other countries. I think the NFB needs to look much more closely at accessibility standards of the rest of the world. We have Fred Schroeder who is president of the world blind union in our midst which we are very lucky to have. I would like to see Fred expound on accessibility standards and where the United States finds itself compared to the rest ofsay, the industrialized world. The other concern I have is with the affordable technology act. Aren’t we calling for a three-year tax credit of just $2000? So if someone needs to buy or wants to buy a braille note taker the cost something like 6000 or $7000, how is that person going to obtain that piece of assistive technology? Why aren’t we aiming hire as much as say $10,000 tax credit?  Why don’t we request that assistive technology be heavily subsidized for all people with disabilities because of it’s incredibly expensive costs? Why don’t we asking for a pension for all people with disabilities such as available in many other countries, to offset the cost of living with a disability? Why are Americans so afraid to do these things? Why must we couch this in terms of tax credits? I have lived in countries where all kinds of basic goods, not just for blind people, who is subsidized to allow the poor to live more decently. Why do Americans think that we always have to mask such assistance in terms of tax credits when most poor people don’t even pay taxes? I suppose I lived overseas so long, that I’ve adopted the mindset that most Americans don’t understand. But I think it’s worth discussing. See you tomorrow evening! Best regards to all, David.Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 7, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Christina Daniels via NFBSF <nfbsf at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hi Folks,
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> A few notes about our meeting tomorrow night:
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