[nfbwatlk] [Wcb-l] BANA Prepares to Betray the Blind

Fri Aug 17 23:51:58 UTC 2012

The thesis of UEB advocates is that Braille translation software would be more accurate if UEB were adopted. Symbols not ordinarily accomodated in standard English Braille as it is now written could be handled. Thus, if one excludes mathematics, the argument between UEB advocates and detractors becomes whether exact translation of print symbols is important. 

Mike 

On Aug 17, 2012, at 16:31, "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren1 at catliness.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> But why is EUB okay under any circumstances?  Why can't we just have standard braille and computer braille, if that is the problem?
> Thanks
> Lauren
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "SA Mobile" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
> To: "NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] [Wcb-l] BANA Prepares to Betray the Blind
> 
> 
>> NFB also said that UEB without Nemeth is unacceptable.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 17/08/2012, at 5:34 PM, "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren1 at catliness.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I've heard that the NFb supports EUB.  I don't know if I do though. Especially without Nemeth Code.
>>> Thanks
>>> Lauren, who can read fine the way it is.
>>> 
>>> advice from my cats: "meow when you feel like it."
>>> The most basic of all human needs is the need to understand and be
>>> understood. The best way to understand people is to listen to them.
>>> -- Ralph Nichols
>>> Visit us at catliness.com
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] [Wcb-l] BANA Prepares to Betray the Blind
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Does the NFB have a decision for this? The article only states that the ACB
>>>> approves this horrible, awful change of braille.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Gloria Whipple
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:35 PM
>>>> To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] [Wcb-l] BANA Prepares to Betray the Blind
>>>> 
>>>> I hope it doesn't happen. It is scary!
>>>> 
>>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of debby phillips
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 14:24
>>>> To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [nfbwatlk] [Wcb-l] BANA Prepares to Betray the Blind
>>>> 
>>>> What do you all think about this?  Any time they think about
>>>> making huge changes to Braille it makes me a little nervous.
>>>> Debby
>>>> 
>>>> ---- Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Carl Jarvis" <carjar82 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: [Wcb-l] BANA Prepares to Betray the Blind
>>>> Date sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:54:06 -0700
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Christopher Gray
>>>> To: ACB Board of Directors ; ACB Leadership List ; ACB General
>>>> Discussion
>>>> List
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:17 PM
>>>> Subject: [acb-l] BANA Prepares to Betray the Blind
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The following press release was issued today through Unified
>>>> Braille for
>>>> All.
>>>> 
>>>> BANA Prepares to Betray the Blind
>>>> UBA Press
>>>> August 17, 2012
>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>> 
>>>> Yesterday, the Braille Authority of North America issued a press
>>>> release in
>>>> which they indicate that a vote will be taken to decide whether
>>>> to adopt
>>>> Unified
>>>> English Braille (UEB) during their November meeting in San Diego.
>>>> This news
>>>> comes as a surprise to many who believed that the stage had been
>>>> set for
>>>> changes
>>>> and modifications to UEB that would incorporate Nemeth Code
>>>> within UEB.
>>>> This
>>>> was requested by the American Council of the Blind at its summer
>>>> conference
>>>> and
>>>> convention in Louisville, KY.  Approval by ACB's representative
>>>> to BANA was
>>>> conditioned on such incorporation.
>>>> 
>>>> "Either BANA has misinterpreted ACB's conditional approval of UEB
>>>> or it has
>>>> decided to move ahead anyway," said Chris Gray, a participant in
>>>> ACB's
>>>> resolution debate and other business regarding ACB's conditional
>>>> approval of
>>>> UEB.  "To take a deciding vote in November simply gives BANA no
>>>> time to hold
>>>> any
>>>> meaningful discussions or consideration of ACB's provisos."
>>>> 
>>>> In addition to ACB's resolution which has not yet been released
>>>> for public
>>>> examination, Gray made a motion that a technical committee be set
>>>> up within
>>>> ACB
>>>> to advise its representative, Kim Charlson, on the effectiveness
>>>> of whatever
>>>> technique would be used by BANA to incorporate Nemeth Code into
>>>> UEB.  During
>>>> the
>>>> debate on the motion to establish this group, Charlson informed
>>>> the body
>>>> that
>>>> she had been contacted by BANA's Chair and assured that work was
>>>> already
>>>> under
>>>> way to establish a working group to study this issue.
>>>> 
>>>> "Incorporating Nemeth Code into UEB, if it's going to be
>>>> effective, will
>>>> take
>>>> time and careful study" says Gray.  "It is inconceivable that
>>>> such an effort
>>>> could be planned and executed in less than five months after
>>>> ACB's
>>>> provisions
>>>> were put forward.  It seems pretty clear that BANA has chosen to
>>>> move ahead
>>>> despite ACB's resolution."
>>>> 
>>>> In the coming days, strong reactions and commentary are expected.
>>>> UBA Press
>>>> will be watching these and keeping you informed of this
>>>> situation.
>>>> 
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>>>> braille
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