[nfbwatlk] What is Faith Talk

[Mike Freeman]

I agree that this was the ideal. However, I believe that this ideal is impossible to achieve because each religion, with but few exceptions, is convinced that it has more or less exclusive access to the truth and it is nigh on impossible to suspend such convictions long enough to agree on common goals. I am also unconvinced that the discrimination faced by worshippers is different in kind from other discriminatory treatment we face. Hence, I am not convinced that we need a division to deal with the problem. Nevertheless, the division exists and it would probably cause more of a flap to abolish or change it than to leave it to wither on the vine. 

Mike

On Sep 5, 2012, at 22:59, "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren1 at catliness.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> It needs to be a safe and supportive place for Buddhists, Christians, Islamics, Jews, and any other community of faith.  This was also to be okay for conservative or liberal and anywhere in between.  It was not meant to be dominated by one sector of faith.  I remember at one of our national meetings a woman came in and rather loudly asked "where is church?"  We had to explain to her that this was a meeting, not church.
> Thanks
> Lauren, who hasn't been involved in the last few years but was part of the founding group.
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
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>> What would you suggest? The chickens are out of the henhouse!
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 21:59, "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren1 at catliness.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I thought it had a good place to be and it was meant to be nondenominational, like not just Christian but any type of faith organization where blind people needed help with discrimination issues. I'm sorry to hear that it is no longer the open-minded group it
>>> was meant to be. I wonder why someone isn't doing something about the misleading direction the group has gone.
>>> Thanks
>>> Lauren
>>> advice from my cats: "meow when you feel like it."
>>> The most basic of all human needs is the need to understand and be
>>> understood. The best way to understand people is to listen to them.
>>> -- Ralph Nichols
>>> Visit us at catliness.com
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] What is Faith Talk
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Debby:
>>>> 
>>>> Faithf-talk is the list run by the nfb in Communities of Faith, one of our divisions. The division deals with discrimination against us in worship and other church activities. It was supposed to be nondenominational (including welcoming of Jews)but has degenerated into a list where Evangelicals and Fundamentalists profess their faith to the point that there is now a separate list begun by Jewish members. Frankly, I consider the division a danger to nfb's mission in that IMO it fosters the sort of us versus them mentality we don't need in the Movement. Moreover, to me, worship discrimination is no different in kind from the usual social discrimination we face every day so there is no need for the division. You may find otherwise and that's OK.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:08, debby phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, what is faith-talk?  It's an NFB mailing list, but what sort of list? Thanks.    Debby
>>>>> 
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