[nfbwatlk] braille music code

Debby Phillips semisweetdebby at gmail.com
Sun Aug 24 19:54:13 UTC 2014 

You might want to contact the Hadley School for the Blind because I think they have a Braille music course. Their web address is www.hadley,edu.    Debby  

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> On Aug 24, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Mike Freeman via nfbwatlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jennifer:
> 
> Once Luke has learned Braille music, he can work with any music teacher. However, I would be less than candid were I to mislead you by merrily stating that Luke will have no problem teaching himself. It takes nothing away from his intelligence to say that Braille music notation is sufficiently different from print music notation that Luke would find it of immense advantage to take lessons for a year or so from a music teacher familiar with Braille music. Since you live quite a way from such a resource, I realize that you consider this an impossibility. However, I fear that you and he won't find the endeavor of learning Braille music without the aid of a musician who knows the code quite the walk in the park that you anticipate.
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> Mike Freeman
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gandarias via nfbwatlk
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:13 PM
> To: Kaye Kipp; NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] braille music code
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> Thanks for the feedback everyone.  I will order the Braille version so he can learn the code more easily.  I had explored Dancing dots but the program expects that a music teacher be working with the braille.  We have a music teacher unfamiliar with braille and a non-musical parent.  So after Luc learns the code I will get the second part of Dancing Dots.  Thanks for your help, it was the best advice I have received on this topic.
> 
> Jennifer Gandarias
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Kaye Kipp via nfbwatlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
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>> I have some downloaded Braille music, but if a person's just learning 
>> it, hard copy would be easier to work with I'd think
>> 
>> Kaye
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>> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dean 
>> Martineau via nfbwatlk
>> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 PM
>> To: 'Mike Freeman'; 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] braille music code
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>> I won't enter into the discussion as to whether it is wise to learn 
>> Braille music using refreshable braille, but the NLS Music  Services 
>> Division has several downloadable Braille music instruction books that 
>> are both freely downloadable through BARD and freely borrowable in hard copy.
>> 
>> Dean
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike 
>> Freeman via nfbwatlk
>> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:26 PM
>> To: Daniel Frye; NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] braille music code
>> 
>> Jennifer:
>> With respect, I disagree with my esteemed colleague from New jersey. 
>> :-) while Dan may well be correct that NBP has downloadable braille 
>> music instruction material, I contend that there is a distinct 
>> advantage to initially learning braille music from hard-copy. There 
>> are three methods of transcribing braille piano music: bar-by-bar 
>> (predominately used by the British), bar-over-bar and paragraph style. 
>> Bar-over-bar is spacial and thus cannot be adequately conveyed by a 
>> refreshable braille display. Luke needs to be fluent reading all three methods of braille music transcription.
>> Moreover, I am unconvinced that VoiceOver's braille support can be 
>> coaxed into rendering the braille music literally, that is, without 
>> translation or spacial interpretation. The one possible exception to 
>> my concern would be if Luke would get music from BARD and use the 
>> BARDMobile app with his braille display to read the music. Otherwise, 
>> a dedicated note -taker such as the BrailleNote or BrailleSense U2 
>> will do a better job with electronically -transcribed braille music.
>> Braille music is much more logical than is print music. But it's very 
>> different from literary braille or Nemeth code.
>> Just my $0.02-worth.
>> 
>> Mike Freeman
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2014, at 17:47, Daniel Frye via nfbwatlk 
>>> <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jennifer: yes, I believe that an electronic version of the music 
>>> braille
>> code does exist and can be purchased. I would urge you to check with 
>> the National braille press, before you purchase it in hard – copy braille.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On 23 Aug 2014, at 08:09 pm, Jennifer Gandarias via nfbwatlk <
>> nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>> Hi all.  I am not sure if this question fits the requirements of 
>>>> this listserve, but you are the smartest group of people I know.  
>>>> Please feel free to direct me, off the listserve, to other 
>>>> resources.  I have a print copy of the American Printing House's 
>>>> 1997 Music braille code.  I was about to order it in braille for my 
>>>> son so that he could teach himself music braille.  For him it would 
>>>> be more handy if it came in a downloadable version to work with 
>>>> Luc's ipad/brailliant combination.  Does anyone know if such a 
>>>> thing exists?  Please let me know before I spend a small fortune 
>>>> ordering braille volumes.  Thanks so much
>>>> 
>>>> Jennifer Gandarias
>>>> gandarias1217 at gmail.com
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