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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>years ago i was told even though there isn't a
painted cross walk there is one if you are crossing corner to corner.
i think that's what the topic is about.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=suetillett@verizon.net href="mailto:suetillett@verizon.net">MS S
TILLETT</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=njagdu@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:njagdu@nfbnet.org">New Jersey Association of Guide Dog Users</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Njagdu] Driver
awareness</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That is a good one. I was thinking about
that a couple of years ago and wanted to get something into the drivers'
manual so I'm glad it is already there. That is half the battle but now
we have to figure out who to contact to help make it a law that people know
about. The other problem is that there are not crosswalks at every
intersection, something I did not no until recently, so I'm sure most of us
cross without a crosswalk a lot of the time, so it really means when a blind
person is crossing the street. How are we going to know which streets
have crosswalks and which streets dont? Good topic to ponder.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue, Wonder, and Gilly</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=vgc732@optonline.net href="mailto:vgc732@optonline.net">Vincent
Chaney</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=njagdu@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:njagdu@nfbnet.org">New Jersey Association of Guide Dog
Users</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 19, 2010 11:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Njagdu] Driver
awareness</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Tracy,<BR><BR>This is very interesting and would be a good
discussion topic. I wonder how <BR>we could have these points included in
any NJ Drivers Ed courses. If we have <BR>the opportunity to speak at a high
school level school, this would be a good <BR>point to bring up.<BR>This is
a good one for us to ponder about and talk about during our monthly
<BR>meetings...<BR><BR>Vinny<BR>Vincent Chaney Jr<BR>NFB Diabetes Action
Network (DAN) Board<BR>NFBNJ Diabetes Division President<BR>NJAGDU Division
President<BR>NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President<BR>NFBNJ.ORG
Webmaster<BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Tracy Carcione" <<A
href="mailto:carcione@access.net">carcione@access.net</A>><BR>To: <<A
href="mailto:nagdu@nfbnet.org">nagdu@nfbnet.org</A>><BR>Cc: <<A
href="mailto:njagdu@nfbnet.org">njagdu@nfbnet.org</A>><BR>Sent: Friday,
March 19, 2010 2:46 PM<BR>Subject: [Njagdu] Driver
awareness<BR><BR><BR>Tammi's comments about the man whose dog was killed
while they were<BR>crossing the street brings to my mind an issue I'd like
to work on, if<BR>anyone has any idea how to do it effectively.<BR>I'm
pretty sure that the White Cane laws require a driver to yield to a<BR>blind
pedestrian. If a blind person is in the crosswalk, either with
a<BR>dog or a cane, the driver is supposed to wait for the blind person
to<BR>cross.<BR>I saw that in the NJ law when I was looking up guide dog
law, and I almost<BR>laughed. I had no idea! Almost no one does
it! There are streets around<BR>here where I hesitate to cross even
with the light because it's very<BR>likely that someone will come zooming
around the corner in front of me.<BR>And, if I wait for all the turners, I
don't have time to cross. So, if I<BR>can, I cross someplace less
hairy.<BR>My husband and I were shocked a few years ago in San
Francisco. We<BR>crossed a street at the wrong time, not being
familiar with the traffic<BR>patterns, and the drivers waited for us to get
across! We were amazed.<BR>Wouldn't happen In Jersey. I don't
think it happens in California all the<BR>time, either.<BR><BR>Is there a
way to educate drivers not to turn on top of pedestrians, or<BR>especially
blind pedestrians? I don't want to make us out to be poor<BR>pathetic
people, but I don't want to get run over by some guy who thinks<BR>somehow I
will jump out of the way or something. Ben is very good
with<BR>traffic--it's one of the reasons I chose TSE--but we're only flesh
and<BR>blood, and there's only so much we can do.<BR><BR>I remember Marion
saying how his chapter set up a sting of sort, and had a<BR>blind guy
crossing the street and a cop ticketing the people who cut him<BR>off.
I've mentioned it to the New York City chapter, but they were
not<BR>interested. Is it such a bad idea? Is there a better
way?<BR><BR>Could a question about White Cane laws be added to the driver's
test?<BR>Could there be something about it in Drivers Ed for high school
kids? Or<BR>is it hopeless, and we just have to take our
chances? Well, we have to<BR>take our chances anyway, but maybe we
could improve the odds?<BR>Any
ideas?<BR>Tracy<BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Njagdu
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