[Njtechdiv] Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA

[Andy]

Hi,
Ok...So I'll explain something to make it a bit clearer.  As I've seen, the "I'm not a robot" CAPTCHAs work fine for blind people.  Have you used one, Tracy?  Have you had a bad experience with one of these?  I've come across many, and simply checking the box seems to work just fine.  Nothing seems discriminatory against blind people.

As for the new ones, I truly don't know how how they work; I haven't come across any, so I can't comment.  They seem to be hidden, as David points out, so again I'm not sure how that discriminates against anyone.


> On Mar 18, 2017, at 7:13 PM, David Andrews via Njtechdiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Tracy,  The CAPTCHA you are seeing I don't believe is one of the new ones that have been talked about.  First, the one that says I am not a robot has been around a while, and the article says the new one is "hidden."
> 
> I could be wrong, but we might want to be sure before we start accusing people of bad stuff!
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 11:47 AM 3/18/2017, Tracy Carcione via Njtechdiv wrote:
>> My congressional representative, Congressman Gottheimer, has one of those
>> "I'm not a robot" captchas on his website, and it might as well say "I'm not
>> a robot or a blind person".  It's interesting that it's analyzing my
>> clicking.  I wonder if it's expecting actual mouse clicking, which is never
>> going to happen with me.  I'm extremely annoyed that I can't contact my
>> congressman through his contact form, and I'm going to call and complain.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Njtechdiv [mailto:njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mario
>> Brusco via Njtechdiv
>> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 12:14 PM
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>> Cc: Mario Brusco
>> Subject: [Njtechdiv] Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA
>> 
>> this article from the Top Tech Tidbits newsletter from Flying Blind, I think
>> warrants mention because it is a big deal for us blind computer users, but
>> bear in mind that it is a current achievement and is probably not widely
>> accepted yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA
>> http://gizmodo.com/google-has-finally-killed-the-captcha-1793190374
>> 
>> Rhett Jones
>> Saturday 5:47pm
>> Filed to: Captcha Death
>> 
>> CAPTCHA's are an irritating but necessary evil. The system that is used to
>> verify whether or not a user is human has been around a while and it had to
>> evolve because machines were getting better at reading the text than humans.
>> With its latest iteration, Google says you'll no longer have to input
>> anything at all.
>> 
>> Invisible CAPTCHA's are the latest development in the "Completely Automated
>> Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart." Google acquired
>> reCaptcha back in 2009.
>> It updated the system in 2013 to allow for the ubiquitous "I'm not a robot"
>> checkbox that's all over the internet. That version worked by determining
>> the user's humanity through their clicking style. If the click seemed fishy,
>> a more elaborate test would be offered. But the Invisible CAPTCHA is able to
>> recognize that a user is not a bot simply by analyzing their browsing
>> behavior.
>> 
>> In a video, the company explained "Powering these advances is a combination
>> of machine learning and advanced risk analysis that adapt to new and
>> emerging threats." But what's in it for Google?
>> 
>> When the search giant initially bought reCaptcha it was actually for the
>> purpose of integrating it into its giant book scanning project. The
>> technology was great for digitizing books that were illegible to Google's
>> transcription system. But its unclear what Google gains by continuing to
>> improve the software.
>> 
>>  Shuman Ghosemajumder, a former Google employee tells Popular Science,
>> "Google in general-and this is certainly a philosophy that we adhered to
>> when I was there-believed that anything that is good for the internet, is
>> good for Google." In this case, a "more frictionless" internet is good for
>> everybody. But don't count out the possibility that Google is improving its
>> machine learning capabilities through your behaviors. And Ghosemajumder
>> points out that Google knows about the past behavior of users when they're
>> logged in, which would make the system more accurate. That could be a small
>> incentive for some people to ensure they log in.
>> 
> 
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