[Njtechdiv] Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA

[David Andrews]

Tracy, I used JAWS 17, and I hit space bar on check box, after a few 
seconds, it said checkbox unchecked unavailable. when I down arrowed 
I got a "get an audio challenge" link, which is accessible.

Dave

p.s.  I can't get my JAWS 16 to work -- maybe at work.

Dave


At 11:09 AM 3/19/2017, you wrote:
>Mario, or anyone,
>I would really appreciate it if you could try getting past this recaptcha,
>then tell me how you did it.
>I go to
>www.gottheimer.house.gov
>and choose Contact.
>The screen comes up asking for my zip code, and the checkbox for the captcha
>is below that.
>I fill in my zip code, all 9 digits, then tab to the recaptcha checkbox.
>I've tried either hitting hitting enter on the checkbox, or hitting the
>cursor routing button on my braille display, which usually checks a box, or
>using the Jaws left mouse click.  The box remains unchecked, but also says
>"unavailable".
>
>I've tried checking the captcha box first, and I've tried filling in the zip
>code first.  Either way, the I'm not a robot box remains unchecked, and
>something comes up saying "opening verification challenge", but I can't find
>anything more helpful on the screen.
>I tried hitting "submit" anyway, which brought me to the next screen, where
>I filled in every required field and wrote my message.  Then I tried again
>to check the I am not a robot box, with the same results.  I tried hitting
>submit anyway, and a message came up saying invalid, required, but no hint
>what was required, except the "opening verification challenge" message is
>still there.
>No audio captcha, nothing else.
>I really am not an idiot, but I can't get past this d-mn thing.  This really
>shouldn't be this hard.
>Tracy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Njtechdiv [mailto:njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mario
>Brusco via Njtechdiv
>Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:48 PM
>To: New Jersey Technology Division List
>Cc: Mario Brusco
>Subject: Re: [Njtechdiv] Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA
>
>Tracy, I accidentally deleted your post, and not to discourage you from
>doing what you intend to do, but...
>
>   you said you won't check that check box, well, here's what happens.
>
>if you're implying it's not accessible or possible, check it out.
>if you're having a time trying to email Gottheimer, or anyone else
>contacting their congressperson,  because of that pesky checkbox, well what
>you do is enter your zip code and the 4 digit postal code (I think that's
>what the 4 digit code is?) and press the space bar to check the "I'm not a
>robot" check box, you then should find the CAPTCHA and an audio challenge,
>press space bar on the link and then space bar on the play button. some
>numbers, you may get 5 or more,  ar announced quite clearly enough to
>understand what they are. type in the numbers in the appropriate edit field
>and space bar on the verify button. you then should get a message that
>you're verified, and should now find a submit button. press space bar on the
>submit button and you get to choose and fill in the required info like your
>name, email address and other info including your message. when done, you
>should still have a submit button. activate it and your email should be sent
>if you filled in all of the required info. if not, I don't know if all of
>the required fields go blank or the info is retained.
>
>I used Firefox and Internet Explorer. I don't know if Google Chrome will
>work (or behave).
>
>incidentally, he also is my congressman. :)
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>From: Mario [mailto:mrb620 at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Saturday, Mar 18, 2017 12:13 PM EST
>To: New Jersey Technology Division List <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA
>
>this article from the Top Tech Tidbits newsletter from Flying Blind, I think
>warrants mention because it is a big deal for us blind computer users, but
>bear in mind that it is a current achievement and is probably not widely
>accepted yet.
>
>
>Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA
>http://gizmodo.com/google-has-finally-killed-the-captcha-1793190374
>
>Rhet Jones
>Saturday 5:47pm
>Filed to: Captcha Death
>
>CAPTCHA's are an irritating but necessary evil. The system that is used to
>verify whether or not a user is human has been around a while and it had to
>evolve because machines were getting better at reading the text than humans.
>With its latest iteration, Google says you'll no longer have to input
>anything at all.
>
>Invisible CAPTCHA's are the latest development in the "Completely Automated
>Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart." Google acquired
>reCaptcha back in 2009.
>It updated the system in 2013 to allow for the ubiquitous "I'm not a robot"
>checkbox that's all over the internet. That version worked by determining
>the user's humanity through their clicking style. If the click seemed fishy,
>a more elaborate test would be offered. But the Invisible CAPTCHA is able to
>recognize that a user is not a bot simply by analyzing their browsing
>behavior.
>
>In a video, the company explained "Powering these advances is a combination
>of machine learning and advanced risk analysis that adapt to new and
>emerging threats." But what's in it for Google?
>
>When the search giant initially bought reCaptcha it was actually for the
>purpose of integrating it into its giant book scanning project. The
>technology was great for digitizing books that were illegible to Google's
>transcription system. But its unclear what Google gains by continuing to
>improve the software.
>
>   Shuman Ghosemajumder, a former Google employee tells Popular Science,
>"Google in general-and this is certainly a philosophy that we adhered to
>when I was there-believed that anything that is good for the internet, is
>good for Google." In this case, a "more frictionless" internet is good for
>everybody. But don't count out the possibility that Google is improving its
>machine learning capabilities through your behaviors. And Ghosemajumder
>points out that Google knows about the past behavior of users when they're
>logged in, which would make the system more accurate. That could be a small
>incentive for some people to ensure they log in.