[Njtechdiv] Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA

Mario Brusco mrb620 at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 19 20:42:24 UTC 2017


first, type in your zip code and the postal code. then press the space 
bar on the check box to check it.

now you'll have to solve a visual CAPTCHA, but for blind users, there 
should be a button or link to get an audio challenge. activate it and 
now you should find a play button. press it and make note of the numbers 
that are announced.

then type the numbers in the appropriate edit box and press the verify 
button.

you should now get the fields asking for your name, email address, etc., 
including some required information. then after providing what is 
required, press the space bar on the submit button.

that should be it.
if you're still having trouble, I could try to help by Tandumming to 
your computer? call me if you'll want to; 201-767-4696.


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From: Tracy Carcione via Njtechdiv [mailto:njtechdiv at nfbnet.org]
Sent: Sunday, Mar 19, 2017 3:24 PM EST
To: 'New Jersey Technology Division List' <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
Subject: [Njtechdiv] Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA

Same results, checkbox not checked, "opening verification challenge" with no
further information.
Tracy


-----Original Message-----
From: Njtechdiv [mailto:njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kevin via
Njtechdiv
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 3:13 PM
To: njtechdiv at nfbnet.org
Cc: Kevin
Subject: Re: [Njtechdiv] Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA

Hit the space bar on the box.



On 3/19/2017 12:09 PM, Tracy Carcione via Njtechdiv wrote:
Mario, or anyone,
I would really appreciate it if you could try getting past this
recaptcha, then tell me how you did it.
I go to
www.gottheimer.house.gov
and choose Contact.
The screen comes up asking for my zip code, and the checkbox for the
captcha is below that.
I fill in my zip code, all 9 digits, then tab to the recaptcha checkbox.
I've tried either hitting hitting enter on the checkbox, or hitting
the cursor routing button on my braille display, which usually checks
a box, or using the Jaws left mouse click.  The box remains unchecked,
but also says "unavailable".

I've tried checking the captcha box first, and I've tried filling in
the zip code first.  Either way, the I'm not a robot box remains
unchecked, and something comes up saying "opening verification
challenge", but I can't find anything more helpful on the screen.
I tried hitting "submit" anyway, which brought me to the next screen,
where I filled in every required field and wrote my message.  Then I
tried again to check the I am not a robot box, with the same results.
I tried hitting submit anyway, and a message came up saying invalid,
required, but no hint what was required, except the "opening
verification challenge" message is still there.
No audio captcha, nothing else.
I really am not an idiot, but I can't get past this d-mn thing.  This
really shouldn't be this hard.
Tracy


-----Original Message-----
From: Njtechdiv [mailto:njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mario Brusco via Njtechdiv
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:48 PM
To: New Jersey Technology Division List
Cc: Mario Brusco
Subject: Re: [Njtechdiv] Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA

Tracy, I accidentally deleted your post, and not to discourage you
from doing what you intend to do, but...

    you said you won't check that check box, well, here's what happens.

if you're implying it's not accessible or possible, check it out.
if you're having a time trying to email Gottheimer, or anyone else
contacting their congressperson,  because of that pesky checkbox, well
what you do is enter your zip code and the 4 digit postal code (I
think that's what the 4 digit code is?) and press the space bar to
check the "I'm not a robot" check box, you then should find the
CAPTCHA and an audio challenge, press space bar on the link and then
space bar on the play button. some numbers, you may get 5 or more,  ar
announced quite clearly enough to understand what they are. type in
the numbers in the appropriate edit field and space bar on the verify
button. you then should get a message that you're verified, and should
now find a submit button. press space bar on the submit button and you
get to choose and fill in the required info like your name, email
address and other info including your message. when done, you should
still have a submit button. activate it and your email should be sent
if you filled in all of the required info. if not, I don't know if all of
the required fields go blank or the info is retained.

I used Firefox and Internet Explorer. I don't know if Google Chrome
will work (or behave).

incidentally, he also is my congressman. :)

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620 at hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, Mar 18, 2017 12:13 PM EST
To: New Jersey Technology Division List <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA

this article from the Top Tech Tidbits newsletter from Flying Blind, I
think warrants mention because it is a big deal for us blind computer
users, but bear in mind that it is a current achievement and is
probably not widely accepted yet.


Google Has Finally Killed the CAPTCHA
http://gizmodo.com/google-has-finally-killed-the-captcha-1793190374

Rhet Jones
Saturday 5:47pm
Filed to: Captcha Death

CAPTCHA's are an irritating but necessary evil. The system that is
used to verify whether or not a user is human has been around a while
and it had to evolve because machines were getting better at reading the
text than humans.
With its latest iteration, Google says you'll no longer have to input
anything at all.

Invisible CAPTCHA's are the latest development in the "Completely
Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart."
Google acquired reCaptcha back in 2009.
It updated the system in 2013 to allow for the ubiquitous "I'm not a
robot"
checkbox that's all over the internet. That version worked by
determining the user's humanity through their clicking style. If the
click seemed fishy, a more elaborate test would be offered. But the
Invisible CAPTCHA is able to recognize that a user is not a bot simply
by analyzing their browsing behavior.

In a video, the company explained "Powering these advances is a
combination of machine learning and advanced risk analysis that adapt
to new and emerging threats." But what's in it for Google?

When the search giant initially bought reCaptcha it was actually for
the purpose of integrating it into its giant book scanning project.
The technology was great for digitizing books that were illegible to
Google's transcription system. But its unclear what Google gains by
continuing to improve the software.

    Shuman Ghosemajumder, a former Google employee tells Popular
Science, "Google in general-and this is certainly a philosophy that we
adhered to when I was there-believed that anything that is good for
the internet, is good for Google." In this case, a "more frictionless"
internet is good for everybody. But don't count out the possibility
that Google is improving its machine learning capabilities through
your behaviors. And Ghosemajumder points out that Google knows about
the past behavior of users when they're logged in, which would make
the system more accurate. That could be a small incentive for some people
to ensure they log in.



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