From guitarwizandy at optonline.net  Tue Apr 14 00:14:59 2026
From: guitarwizandy at optonline.net (Andy)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 20:14:59 -0400
Subject: [NJTechDiv] April 2026 Presentation Notes
Message-ID: <FA3F7E98-5C3F-45AD-ABC6-4AF183755D7E@optonline.net>

NFBNJ April 2026 Presentation

This month’s short presentation covered password management, developments in NVDA, highlights from CSUN 2026, and a mix of new tools and apps.

1Password and Accessibility

Password management remains an essential part of digital independence, and 1Password continues to be a popular option among blind users. A recent Access On episode <https://nfb.org/resources/publications-and-media/access-on-podcast/nvda-past-present-and-future> provides a comprehensive look at how 1Password works, including its strengths and accessibility considerations. 

For users of JAWS, Hartgen Consultancy offers custom scripts <https://hartgenconsultancy.com/1Password/> designed to improve the experience when using 1Password on Windows.

NVDA: Past, Present, and Future

NVDA continues to be a cornerstone of free, open-source screen access. This Access On episode <https://nfb.org/resources/publications-and-media/access-on-podcast/nvda-past-present-and-future> explores the history and evolution of NVDA.

NVDA Coach <https://tonygebhard.me/nvdacoach/>, developed by Tony Gebhard, helps users learn and master NVDA. Future updates and features are discussed here <https://tonygebhard.me/2026/04/07/so-much-is-coming-for-nvda-coach/>.

CSUN 2026 Highlights

The CSUN Assistive Technology Conference remains a major focal point for innovation in accessibility. An Access On recap is available here <https://nfb.org/resources/publications-and-media/access-podcast/recapping-2026-csun-assistive-technology-conference>.

For a written overview of standout sessions, see this CSUN Highlights Article <https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/csun-2026-highlights-and-takeaways/>.

Accessible Gaming from L-Works

L-Works continues to modernize accessible games. They are doing this by providing old source code written in Visual Basic 6 to AI tools, which create modern code for the games. Examples include: Super Liam <http://l-works.net/superliam.php> and The Great Toy Robbery <http://l-works.net/tgtr.php>. There is much more on YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIRs9H-zq5I&t=1108s> about Super Liam, a classic audiogame. L-Works is planning on modernizing more titles in the future.

FLASHNOTE: A Simple Note-Taking Tool

FLASHNOTE is a lightweight note-taking application. Learn more at this Blog Post <https://blog.blackspheretech.com/?p=505>. Download FLASHNOTE <https://softvoile.com/flashnote>.

Expanding Possibilities with Meta Ray-Ban Apps

New apps for Meta Ray-Ban smart glasses are expanding hands-free capabilities. Tim Dixon explores this here. Read More <https://www.timdixon.net/blog/2026/03/hands-free-vision-why-new-apps-on-meta-ray-bans-change-everything/>.

Apple Turns 50

Apple is celebrating its 50th anniversary. An Access On episode discusses its impact; you can Listen Here <https://nfb.org/resources/publications-and-media/access-on-podcast/apple-50-blind-people-and-our-allies-shaping>.

David Pogue’s book provides a broader history with his book, Apple: The First 50 Years <https://www.applefirst50.com/>. The book is also available on Bookshare.
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From carcione at access.net  Tue Apr 14 23:34:00 2026
From: carcione at access.net (carcione at access.net)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 19:34:00 -0400
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR
Message-ID: <022801dccc67$2e331630$8a994290$@access.net>

I am taking a class, and the teacher gave a very large pdf to use, about 98
pages, and it's a scan, "empty document".  

I started OCR on it about 45 minutes ago, and I'm guessing it's still
running.

Is there any way to check if it's running, and how far it's gotten?

Is there any limit on how big a file Jaws can OCR?

Thanks.

Tracy

 

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From mrb620 at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 15 15:14:16 2026
From: mrb620 at hotmail.com (Mario Brusco)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 11:14:16 -0400
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR
In-Reply-To: <022801dccc67$2e331630$8a994290$@access.net>
References: <022801dccc67$2e331630$8a994290$@access.net>
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Tracy, according to FS/Vispero companion:

Here’s what you need to know about using JAWS OCR on a large scanned PDF:

1. Checking Progress:
• When you use JAWS OCR on a PDF (using Insert+Space, then O, then D), 
the recognized text appears in the JAWS Results Viewer as it is processed.
• As OCR progresses, new text is added to the end of the Results Viewer. 
If you use JAWS reading commands (like the arrow keys or Insert+Down 
Arrow for "Read All"), you can navigate through the text that has 
already been recognized.
• If new text is added while you are reading, JAWS will announce the 
current line again, indicating that OCR is still running.

2. File Size Limits:
• There is no specific documented limit on the size of a PDF that JAWS 
OCR can process, but larger files will take longer.
• For very large PDFs (like your 98-page scan), it is normal for the 
process to take a significant amount of time.

3. What to Do:
• You can check the Results Viewer window (JAWSKey+Space, then O, then D 
again will not interrupt the current process, but will prompt you if OCR 
is already running).
• Use standard JAWS reading keys to see if new text is appearing in the 
Results Viewer. If text is still being added, OCR is still running.

Summary: There is no direct progress bar, but you can check the Results 
Viewer for new text. There is no strict file size limit, but very large 
or complex scans will take longer to process.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2026 at 7:34 PM EDT
To: 'New Jersey Technology Division List' <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
Cc: carcione at access.net
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR

I am taking a class, and the teacher gave a very large pdf to use, about
98 pages, and it’s a scan, “empty document”.

I started OCR on it about 45 minutes ago, and I’m guessing it’s still
running.

Is there any way to check if it’s running, and how far it’s gotten?

Is there any limit on how big a file Jaws can OCR?

Thanks.

Tracy


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From carcione at access.net  Wed Apr 15 19:03:46 2026
From: carcione at access.net (carcione at access.net)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 15:03:46 -0400
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR
In-Reply-To: 
 <CY8PR12MB75635D7BA3AF64D8A770CF4E86222@CY8PR12MB7563.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
References: <022801dccc67$2e331630$8a994290$@access.net>
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Message-ID: <022601dccd0a$968a3800$c39ea800$@access.net>

Thanks Mario.
I tried again this morning, and it worked much better, but it's good to know there aren't any size limits.  I don't know why it didn't work last night, except that I was anxious for it to finish so I could use it in class, so of course it didn't.
Tracy


-----Original Message-----
From: NJTechDiv <njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mario Brusco via NJTechDiv
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2026 11:14 AM
To: Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mario Brusco <mrb620 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR

Tracy, according to FS/Vispero companion:

Here’s what you need to know about using JAWS OCR on a large scanned PDF:

1. Checking Progress:
• When you use JAWS OCR on a PDF (using Insert+Space, then O, then D), the recognized text appears in the JAWS Results Viewer as it is processed.
• As OCR progresses, new text is added to the end of the Results Viewer. 
If you use JAWS reading commands (like the arrow keys or Insert+Down Arrow for "Read All"), you can navigate through the text that has already been recognized.
• If new text is added while you are reading, JAWS will announce the current line again, indicating that OCR is still running.

2. File Size Limits:
• There is no specific documented limit on the size of a PDF that JAWS OCR can process, but larger files will take longer.
• For very large PDFs (like your 98-page scan), it is normal for the process to take a significant amount of time.

3. What to Do:
• You can check the Results Viewer window (JAWSKey+Space, then O, then D again will not interrupt the current process, but will prompt you if OCR is already running).
• Use standard JAWS reading keys to see if new text is appearing in the Results Viewer. If text is still being added, OCR is still running.

Summary: There is no direct progress bar, but you can check the Results Viewer for new text. There is no strict file size limit, but very large or complex scans will take longer to process.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2026 at 7:34 PM EDT
To: 'New Jersey Technology Division List' <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
Cc: carcione at access.net
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR

I am taking a class, and the teacher gave a very large pdf to use, about
98 pages, and it’s a scan, “empty document”.

I started OCR on it about 45 minutes ago, and I’m guessing it’s still running.

Is there any way to check if it’s running, and how far it’s gotten?

Is there any limit on how big a file Jaws can OCR?

Thanks.

Tracy


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From guitarwizandy at optonline.net  Wed Apr 15 19:36:25 2026
From: guitarwizandy at optonline.net (Andy)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 15:36:25 -0400
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR
In-Reply-To: <022601dccd0a$968a3800$c39ea800$@access.net>
References: <022601dccd0a$968a3800$c39ea800$@access.net>
Message-ID: <1206339B-336F-49FE-9E75-B192C980BC52@optonline.net>

You can also try right-clicking (shift+F10) on the document in Windows Explorer, and OCR the document to Word. That might be easier than copying from the Results Viewer. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2026, at 15:03, Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ﻿Thanks Mario.
> I tried again this morning, and it worked much better, but it's good to know there aren't any size limits.  I don't know why it didn't work last night, except that I was anxious for it to finish so I could use it in class, so of course it didn't.
> Tracy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NJTechDiv <njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mario Brusco via NJTechDiv
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2026 11:14 AM
> To: Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mario Brusco <mrb620 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR
> 
> Tracy, according to FS/Vispero companion:
> 
> Here’s what you need to know about using JAWS OCR on a large scanned PDF:
> 
> 1. Checking Progress:
> • When you use JAWS OCR on a PDF (using Insert+Space, then O, then D), the recognized text appears in the JAWS Results Viewer as it is processed.
> • As OCR progresses, new text is added to the end of the Results Viewer.
> If you use JAWS reading commands (like the arrow keys or Insert+Down Arrow for "Read All"), you can navigate through the text that has already been recognized.
> • If new text is added while you are reading, JAWS will announce the current line again, indicating that OCR is still running.
> 
> 2. File Size Limits:
> • There is no specific documented limit on the size of a PDF that JAWS OCR can process, but larger files will take longer.
> • For very large PDFs (like your 98-page scan), it is normal for the process to take a significant amount of time.
> 
> 3. What to Do:
> • You can check the Results Viewer window (JAWSKey+Space, then O, then D again will not interrupt the current process, but will prompt you if OCR is already running).
> • Use standard JAWS reading keys to see if new text is appearing in the Results Viewer. If text is still being added, OCR is still running.
> 
> Summary: There is no direct progress bar, but you can check the Results Viewer for new text. There is no strict file size limit, but very large or complex scans will take longer to process.
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2026 at 7:34 PM EDT
> To: 'New Jersey Technology Division List' <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: carcione at access.net
> Subject: [NJTechDiv] Huge pdf file to OCR
> 
> I am taking a class, and the teacher gave a very large pdf to use, about
> 98 pages, and it’s a scan, “empty document”.
> 
> I started OCR on it about 45 minutes ago, and I’m guessing it’s still running.
> 
> Is there any way to check if it’s running, and how far it’s gotten?
> 
> Is there any limit on how big a file Jaws can OCR?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tracy
> 
> 
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From carcione at access.net  Fri Apr 24 13:39:04 2026
From: carcione at access.net (carcione at access.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 09:39:04 -0400
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Zoom help
Message-ID: <011a01dcd3ef$b80f30c0$282d9240$@access.net>

Help!  I've just created a Zoom meeting for tomorrow, as I've done before,
but when I try to go to the invitation to copy it, Zoom now says I have to
"connect calendar".  And, apparently I have to create some kind of 3rd-party
account to do that.  

What is this?  Do I really have to do this to get my invitation out?  Big
Brother strikes again.

Tracy

 

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From missruthnfb at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 24 15:27:53 2026
From: missruthnfb at yahoo.com (Miss Ruth Williams)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 15:27:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Zoom help
In-Reply-To: <011a01dcd3ef$b80f30c0$282d9240$@access.net>
References: <011a01dcd3ef$b80f30c0$282d9240$@access.net>
Message-ID: <1040603492.1814206.1777044473163@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi, Tracy,
Miss Ruth here! I have a Zoom account, so I just went and created a "mock" meeting to see if I get that message, but it didn't tell me I had to connect calendar, or to get a 3rd party app to do it. 
I wonder if that message might've popped up from somewhere else and is some kind of malware? Just a thought. 
I had a Trojan the other day, but was able to quarantine it before it did any damage. 
Couldn't hurt to run a full scan on your computer to check for viruses. If you're clear of viruses, I'd probably scrap the invitation and create a new one to see if the issue persists.
Hope this helps!

Take care,

   Miss Ruth 

Vision Loss Community Advocate
Miss Ruth Here! 

    On Friday, April 24, 2026 at 09:40:11 AM EDT, Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org> wrote:  
 
 
Help!  I’ve just created a Zoom meeting for tomorrow, as I’ve done before, but when I try to go to the invitation to copy it, Zoom now says I have to “connect calendar”.  And, apparently I have to create some kind of 3rd-party account to do that.  

What is this?  Do I really have to do this to get my invitation out?  Big Brother strikes again.

Tracy

  
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From carcione at access.net  Fri Apr 24 15:53:28 2026
From: carcione at access.net (carcione at access.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 11:53:28 -0400
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Zoom help
In-Reply-To: <1040603492.1814206.1777044473163@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <011a01dcd3ef$b80f30c0$282d9240$@access.net>
 <1040603492.1814206.1777044473163@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01f001dcd402$7e74f710$7b5ee530$@access.net>

Thanks Miss Ruth.  Guess it wouldn’t hurt to run a full scan.  

I got out of Zoom and got back in again an hour or 2 later, and then I was able to see my event and copy the invitation.  

So problem solved, at least for now.  But I’ll run a scan anyway.

Tracy

 

 

From: NJTechDiv <njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Miss Ruth Williams via NJTechDiv
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2026 11:28 AM
To: Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Miss Ruth Williams <missruthnfb at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NJTechDiv] Zoom help

 

Hi, Tracy,

 

Miss Ruth here! I have a Zoom account, so I just went and created a "mock" meeting to see if I get that message, but it didn't tell me I had to connect calendar, or to get a 3rd party app to do it. 

 

I wonder if that message might've popped up from somewhere else and is some kind of malware? Just a thought. 

 

I had a Trojan the other day, but was able to quarantine it before it did any damage. 

 

Couldn't hurt to run a full scan on your computer to check for viruses. If you're clear of viruses, I'd probably scrap the invitation and create a new one to see if the issue persists.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Take care,

   Miss Ruth 

Vision Loss Community Advocate

 <https://missruthhere.com/> Miss Ruth Here!

 

 

On Friday, April 24, 2026 at 09:40:11 AM EDT, Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org> wrote: 

 

 

Help!  I’ve just created a Zoom meeting for tomorrow, as I’ve done before, but when I try to go to the invitation to copy it, Zoom now says I have to “connect calendar”.  And, apparently I have to create some kind of 3rd-party account to do that.  

What is this?  Do I really have to do this to get my invitation out?  Big Brother strikes again.

Tracy

 

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From serena.c.cucco at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 21:29:11 2026
From: serena.c.cucco at gmail.com (Serena Cucco)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 17:29:11 -0400
Subject: [NJTechDiv] Zoom help
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Hi Tracy and all,

Virus scans are always a good idea.  You never know!  How did yours come
out?

Serena

On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 11:54 AM Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <
njtechdiv at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Thanks Miss Ruth.  Guess it wouldn’t hurt to run a full scan.
>
> I got out of Zoom and got back in again an hour or 2 later, and then I was
> able to see my event and copy the invitation.
>
> So problem solved, at least for now.  But I’ll run a scan anyway.
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* NJTechDiv <njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Miss Ruth
> Williams via NJTechDiv
> *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2026 11:28 AM
> *To:* Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Miss Ruth Williams <missruthnfb at yahoo.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [NJTechDiv] Zoom help
>
>
>
> Hi, Tracy,
>
>
>
> Miss Ruth here! I have a Zoom account, so I just went and created a "mock"
> meeting to see if I get that message, but it didn't tell me I had to
> connect calendar, or to get a 3rd party app to do it.
>
>
>
> I wonder if that message might've popped up from somewhere else and is
> some kind of malware? Just a thought.
>
>
>
> I had a Trojan the other day, but was able to quarantine it before it did
> any damage.
>
>
>
> Couldn't hurt to run a full scan on your computer to check for viruses. If
> you're clear of viruses, I'd probably scrap the invitation and create a new
> one to see if the issue persists.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps![image: Image removed by sender. Emoji]
>
>
>
> Take care,
>
>    Miss Ruth [image: Image removed by sender. Emoji]
>
> Vision Loss Community Advocate
>
> Miss Ruth Here! <https://missruthhere.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2026 at 09:40:11 AM EDT, Tracy Carcione via NJTechDiv
> <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Help!  I’ve just created a Zoom meeting for tomorrow, as I’ve done before,
> but when I try to go to the invitation to copy it, Zoom now says I have to
> “connect calendar”.  And, apparently I have to create some kind of 3rd-party
> account to do that.
>
> What is this?  Do I really have to do this to get my invitation out?  Big
> Brother strikes again.
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
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From jdegen16 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 30 19:01:42 2026
From: jdegen16 at comcast.net (Jane Degenshein)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 15:01:42 -0400
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