<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Dear All,</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">I am writing this mail from India, I am a developer and have been working on various aspects of education for visually impaired people. I follow many mailing lists and update myself silently. I read a lot about many latest developments happening especially concerning the education for the VI community.</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">I just happened to read a long document concerning the UEB and guidelines for making maths and science accessible. I seek permission from the list owner to freely express my thoughts on this subject. </div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">I need freedom to express that as per my understanding I am against the way guidelines are set for converting everything into Braille equivalent for eg. </div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s58" style="font-style: italic; ">1</span><span class="s58" style="font-style: italic; "> </span><span class="s58" style="font-style: italic; "> </span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s3"> 12 </span></span><span class="s3" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "> + 34 is to be written as </span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><span class="s3" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><span class="s18" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">##</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><span class="s18" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">#a </span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s18"></span><span class="s18"></span><span class="s18">ab</span><span class="s18"> "6 </span><span class="s18"> </span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s18"></span><span class="s18"></span><span class="s18"></span><span class="s18">cd</span><span class="s18"> </span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s18"></span><span class="s18"></span><span class="s18">"3</span><span class="s18">3</span></span></p></p><div><br></div><div>According to me this is the most complex method of understanding / studying. I have a more better approach towards doing this. I presume that there is this necessity to convert everything into the 8 dots of the existing Braille cell and hence this approach. </div><div><br></div><div>I am aware that most of the audience shall discard this opinion and be calling me a fool but if the owner / moderator allows me to speak I shall want to present a more simple approach. </div><div><br></div><div>Kindly focus on my assumption of the limitations in the 8 dot cell and thus the UEB approach in making all in constraints of 8 cell. I hope that I shall be given an opportunity to speak / present my thoughts in the interest of development. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Warm Regards,</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Kiran S Deshpande</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "> </div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "> </div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">DISCLAIMER:-</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">This e-mail message (including any attachment) is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. This message is confidential and may be legally privileged. 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Furthermore, this message (including any attachment) does not create any legally binding rights or obligations whatsoever, which may only be created by the exchange of hard copy documents signed by a duly authorized representative of the company If Official or other wise signed by the Author on Valid Documents.</div></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br>On 27-Nov-2012, at 5:06 PM, David Andrews <<a href="mailto:dandrews@visi.com">dandrews@visi.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Braille Authority of Western Australia in cooperation with the Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative has released a early trial version of a Unified English Braille table for the NFBtrans and WinBT braille translating programs.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Information on this and other UEB resource from the Braille Authority of Western Australia in cooperation with the Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative can be found at <a href="http://www.cbtbc.org/ueb/">www.cbtbc.org/ueb/</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park WA 6100</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | <a href="http://www.guidedogswa.com.au">www.guidedogswa.com.au</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Email: <a href="mailto:greg.kearney@guidedogswa.com.au">greg.kearney@guidedogswa.com.au</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Email: <a href="mailto:gkearney@gmail.com">gkearney@gmail.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Article 19 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Njtechdiv mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Njtechdiv@nfbnet.org">Njtechdiv@nfbnet.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/njtechdiv_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/njtechdiv_nfbnet.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Njtechdiv:</span><br><span><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/njtechdiv_nfbnet.org/kiran%40persiontechnologies.com">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/njtechdiv_nfbnet.org/kiran%40persiontechnologies.com</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>