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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=4>I agree with you Andy as I use seeing ai
even
more than the KNFB reader</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>It is quick and the product recognition is quite good but
sometimes, I use short text for cans, bottles, or other info I need
fast</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>woo hoo</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=njtechdiv@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:njtechdiv@nfbnet.org">Andy via Njtechdiv</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:18 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=guitarwizandy@optonline.net
href="mailto:guitarwizandy@optonline.net">Andy</A> ; <A
title=electronics-talk@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:electronics-talk@nfbnet.org">Discussion of accessible home
electronics and appliances</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Njtechdiv] Orcam</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Tracy, how does this differ from SeeingAI? SeeingAI seems to be
able
to do most of this. For instance, you can use its "Document" mode to
read
a menu, or perhaps the "Short Text" mode could be useful for this as well if
you
needed something specific. I've used "Short Text," for instance, to
read
serial numbers, etc.</DIV>
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<DIV>Similarly, there's also a "Person" mode, and "Color," etc. It's
also
worth noting that SeeingAI is free for Android and iPhone users.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Oct 27, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Tracy Carcione via Njtechdiv <<A
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0pt">I
saw the Orcam yesterday. It was pretty nice.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
<DIV
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0pt">Hold
2 fingers together, and that’s about the length and width of the
camera.
There used to be an extra processor, but now it’s all in the
camera.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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0pt">It
attaches to a magnet that can clip onto any pair of glasses, on either
side,
depending on which hand is dominant. There’s a ridge that runs along
the
back of the camera that controls volume, and gives access to a menu that
controls other settings. The camera can also synch with Bluetooth
headphones.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in
0pt">You
point at the thing you want the camera to read, and hold up your hand flat
to
pause it. It read pretty well. I had it read a very
complicated
menu. It got a lot of one side, and not much of the other, but there
was
a lot of curly script and stuff on that side. It read the shiny
brochure
the demonstrator had very well.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in
0pt">The
demo person said it can read labels, price tags, signs … whatever.
We
didn’t have most of those things to try. It read a box well. A
can, not so much. She said products we use often can be stored in
memory, so it recognizes them quickly. She also said, if you were in
a
grocery aisle looking at products, and it saw one that’s in its memory, it
would say it, and you could move around until you actually found
it.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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0pt">There’s
2 versions of the Orcam. They both do all the things I just
said.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
<DIV
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0pt">The
fancier one, the Eye, also does color recognition. That was pretty
slow,
compared to my Rainbow color detector.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in
0pt">It
also recognizes faces. It always recognized the demonstrator, and
would
tell me when I looked in her direction. We taught it to recognize
Jerry,
but it didn’t recognize him so much. There’s a trick to teaching it,
so
maybe I did it wrong. But, even when it didn’t recognize him, it
would
say “There’s a man in front of you.”<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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0pt"><o:p></o:p> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in
0pt">One
or both models also read bar codes, but you have to point right at it, and
that’s just not happening.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in
0pt">The
one that is mostly for reading is $3500, and the Eye that does it all is
$4500.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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