[nobe-l] Hello and question

Wed Oct 29 21:43:26 UTC 2008

no disrespect to the aloha spirit but i've chatted with teachers who say
school discipline and violence are worse there than here; hope it's not
true.
but, if i'm getting off topic, let me just mention the issue this discussion
has caused me to think about. often times a blind person will take a job
offer, even if  better instincts suggest  it's not appropriate; often due to
worry that no other job will be offered, or that, once having turned
something down, that refusal will somehow follow  throughout the a
professional life. In the current job market, people change jobs often,
always seeking something better in all respects. If a job offer feels wrong,
no matter the pressures to take it, I'd say no to it; the interview/hiring
procedure is a 2-way street, not a one-way street.  by that i mean, the
schools need us just as much as we need them; they should be as worried
about meeting our expectations (perhaps more) as we are of meeting theirs.
i have no doubt whatsoever that there are far more talented and competent
blind teachers out there than I am; I just happened to be in the right place
at the right time; I have no illusions about this and don't for one second
think I'm better than any other teacher just because I've been fortunate
enough to be hired. I've definitely had my share of problems and wouldn't
think of painting this profession with pastels, just to reassure the
incoming generation of professionals.  On the other hand, I think today's
new teachers are probably better equipped to deal with things than ever
before - technology, information, the ADA and all else conspire to make it
an opportune time.
thanks.
kat

-----Original Message-----
From: nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:32 PM
To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Hello and question

I also learned that teachers are bowed to and honored in the kingdom
of Hawaii.  Or they were when Hawaii was a kingdom.  Today, there are
Hawaiian schools where the teachers are respected more often.  Just a
fun fact.
Beth

On 10/29/08, melissa R. Green <graduate56 at juno.com> wrote:
> Hi all.
> Here is a suggestion.
> Why don't we take a lesson from the Student devision, and create tip
sheets
> for
> educators.  Then put them on the Nobe-L website if there is one.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Melissa R. Green
> If you get a second chance, grab it with both hands.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
> Of
> Kathleen A. Millhoff
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:14 PM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Hello and question
>
> I'm in agreement with using an aide as a reasonable accommodation for
tasks
> that divert from teaching.  Where it gets tricky is the consideration of
> doing the teaching job, aide or no aide, because some days they're sick,
or
> their kids are sick, or for one reason or another they cannot be there.
So
> each teacher has to know he/she will be teaching, aide or no aide.  If an
> aide doesn't come in, be ready to alter strategies.
> Yes, there is violence in schools; interestingly, women usually have an
> easier time breaking up fights than men. I have my opinions why, but maybe
> this list doesn't have space for that. It's taking nothing away from men
> teachers to say that sometimes aggressive male students see an adversary
> they might wish were otherwise engaged.
> I don't know how much say an applicant currently has, but I'd choose a
> smaller, less crowded and non-violent school whenever possible. Budget
cuts
> are pretty much ensuring over crowding these days.
> Recently (now that I've shared about fights at school with the boys) the
> girl gangs have been more violent than the boys - weapons and all.  They
> wouldn't hesitate to jam anyone, teacher or not.
> some days i long to teach in japan or korea, where they have their share
of
> violence but teachers are still respected, bowed to, gifted, and honored.
> kat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
> Behalf Of Faith Manion
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:55 PM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Hello and question
>
>
>
> Wow, you guys have provided alot of information. Thanks.  I must agree, it
> would be nice to find a way not to need an aide in the classroom, however
I
> know classroom management/ issues will vary with grades.  Obviously, since
I
> have no experience as a real teacher I don't know what will work and what
> will not. Therefore, just hearing your opinions is helpful.  In regards to
> emails about not having an aide in the classroom, how would you propose
high
> school teachers deal with their students?  I know students at this age
level
> can be more sneaky and violant then at other ages.  Thanks for all the
info
> guys.
> Faith
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